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All Forum Posts by: James Hamling

James Hamling has started 14 posts and replied 4032 times.

Post: Why are Newbies Using Invalid Investment Assumptions from 5+ Years Ago?

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Quote from @David Spurlock:

Hey @Drew Sygit, Can you expand on "Old advice" and "new realities?"

ALMOST EVERYTHING! 

If your reading some "How To" that came out between '2010' and '2020', that's some good fire starter, and that's about it's value in this market cycle and odd's are the market cycle of the next decade or two. 

Pre '2010', maybe just maybe it will lean heavier on the fundamental mechanics than specific processes. 

Look, we were for most part playing a game of American Football for a long time. Yeah, various factors kept adjusting but for majority part it was the same sport. 

2020, everything changed. Now were all standing on a field with cricket bat's and starring at some wickets wondering what the hell is a wicket..... Some weird guy is yelling from the side about bowling...... And the vast majority of us are just looking stupidly at each other as others are still trying to huddle up and run screen plays. 

The game has changed. 

It looks a lot like the "baseball" that was the market in the 80's but still it's also very different. 

What makes something a "deal" today is not yester-markets. And vice versa. 

How you do it all, it's all changed. 

We are in a constricted market cycle, low volume, strained budgets, high costs. Things are so very different. Ton's of people with golden shackles of sub 3% rates, epic net shortage, skilled labor shortage, on and on. 

If one plays thinking they can cookie cutter yester-markets plays, it's just not gonna work. Unless your digging deep in that file and pulling from when the game was most similar to todays. 

Hence Sub2. (if this makes no sense to you, research the 80's)

Yes, fundamentals apply like compounding returns, proper use of leverage, appreciating assets etc etc, but the specific's of the how-to's, the "plays" one runs, how you play the game, it's a different game than '19'. 

Post: Mass deportations: will it affect rental markets?

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Quote from @Terry Ouimet:

justifying illegals to pick our crops and build our houses I think it’s fundamentally incorrect- it lacks  Integrity. If  you build your foundation in anything in life illegally is it a firm foundation? Will it last? What else would you be willing to do illegally?

Illegal is illegal whether it’s by an inch or a mile and two wrongs don’t make a right. If you wanna come over and pick our Fields and build our  houses you’re more than welcome to come over. Just do it by the law. 

the housing market and rental prices shouldn’t be dictated by illegals, it  should be dictated by a lawful capitalistic market of US  citizens. 

They will get deported and when they do, I guess young Americans will have to work in our factories, fields and housing job sites and give up the dream of being Youtubers while sponging  off their parents till her 38 years old.



 Just an FYI on the "illegals to pick our crops" from a farm-kid.... That's not a thing. 

See, there is a thing called migrant farm worker. It's a very long standing visa program, super regularized, they have visas, 100% legal, ton's of rules about it. 

There is no real reason to use illegals, there's just no real benefit to it and a lot of downside. The migrant farm worker program works fairly well. There's always some bad apples in any bunch but for vast majority, it's a win-win. 

Soooo yeah, it's little known by the average Jane/John Doe so I get it could make a good sound byte but yeah, really not so much a thing. Farmers are some of the most ethical humans on earth. Granted, I'm bias so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Buuuuuut, I'm kinda proving the point in being upfront with my bias aren't I. 

Post: Why are Newbies Using Invalid Investment Assumptions from 5+ Years Ago?

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Quote from @Jesse Rivera:

I disagree about buying in CA. If you know where to look and have the right time, you can find properties that cash flow. And you get some decent appreciation as well, unlike the midwest where appreciation is minimal. 


What?! 

"...unlike the Midwest where appreciation has been minimal".

Is that a joke? You can't be that clueless.... can you? 

Or do you think 100%+ appreciation in <10yrs is "minimal"?????? 

Post: Mass deportations: will it affect rental markets?

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The hyperbolae, THAT is by far the #1 problem in all of this. 

#2 is the utter BS that is being pumped into peoples mind's by whatever media, regurgitated onto others with no fact finding to confirm or deny. Feeling spewing

Here is some FACTS to chew on, yes, from an immigrant household who has actual 1st hand current experience in immigration. 

Only @Melanie P. touched on a fact that I never hear; the GIANT waiting list of LEGAL immigrants who have been long delayed because of ILLEGAL immigration. 

I am not talking from feelings or opinion, this was the explanation given for delay after delay after delay in processing my Mother-in-law's immigration. Yes, they said due to the system getting flooded with illegals who took precedence she got rolled behind them. 
And than meeting with Senators I got the same answers. 

It's literally broken the LEGAL immigration process. 

So what will happen with mass deportation of illegals? With securing of a border, and defending the LEGAL process? It will mean LEGAL immigrants will be allowed to flow through and in again. 

Next: questioning "IF" administration will do as it's promised is ridiculous. We know from last time this administration was in power that they actually do what they promise and campaign they will do. I know all are so used to campaign promises just being a slogan of lies but this is a factual thing, we know they are actually do what they say they will do, or at least try like hell to do it. 

Will they be able to effect mass deportation day1, week1, month1, HELL YES

For years law enforcement has had there hands tied, they have been denied ability to make enforcement actions. BUT there was nothing preventing DOCUMENTATION. They 100% have a list, of known persons, and known locations. This is where things will start. 

For example, I know a place that has about 1k illegals. Everyone knows of it, literally everyone. The employer had been raided 2X previously where they pulled up tour busses to load people. No secret. And what have they done in recent years, filled it right back up. And how they treat the people is horrific. I won't mention the employer because it's a massive national entity, but I assure it will be back on news soon as those buses arrive yet again. 

There is a lot of places like this. 

Any who argue FOR exploitation of these people to "defend low prices"..... Shame on you. It is NOT "American" to exploit people as quazi-slaves 4-profit, that's vile. 

It needs to be made criminal to do such as these corporations are, intentionally exploiting illegal immigrants 4-profit. Worried about costs, how about we add a $100k per person fine for such? 

Will getting back to a LEGAL immigration policy and action collapse housing, the economy etc.? That is a ridiculous childish notion. It's saying a country "can't" exist without wide open borders and rampant exploitation of people. 

STOP blindly regurgitating whatever media you consume. When you hear something STOP, think on it, ask if it makes sense, then SEEK OUT additional info, seek out CONTEXT. Formulate your theory then seek to prove it WRONG. 

Because when you do that, your probably going to learn some interesting stuff. Stuff that may radically change your opinion of things. Stuff that may be a head scratcher as to "well why did they not mention this at all, I mean, holly-cow this changes everything". 

Illegal immigration is a CRIME. Robbing a bank to pay rent is a CRIME. Stealing food from a gas station to eat is a CRIME. 

Yes, crimes of desperation 100%, sad, yes they are. CRIMES none the less, letting the crimes run rampant is what collapses systems of society. 

How do you feel if a tenant stops paying rent? Do you fret over finding them a new roof over there head? No, you enforce the rules. The rules made for ALL, to keep order. Because anarchy is bad for all. Desperation is not an exclusion to the rules. 

Post: LA fires Wholesalers Beware

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@Jay Hinrichs did you see the lawsuits already started? 

So there's gonna be that fun delay to things. 

I honestly think that will be the #1 delay to things. The standard process is already long enough, add on the scope of things and that's some significant time. But theses people were in large part those with means, so all it takes is the lawyers to whoop people up enough and it's a tornado of suits upon suits upon suits. 

And as more happen, more will happen just out of FOMO. 

And the more there is, the more log jammed the system get's, the longer they all take. 

One thing for sure is it's gonna be a looooong slog of it. 

Post: LA fires Wholesalers Beware

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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @John Clark:
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@Jay Hinrichs I'd love to think this is government working FOR the people, protecting there ability to process. My gut say's it's other motives. 

The timing of people most apt to say "F-it, I'm done with this stuff, I'm gonna take the $ and run" is in that 90 day period. 

Because that is when the impacts are most felt of everything one has to do with the now pile of ashes. 90 days to do nothing forces people to engage with staying. 

I have a feeling this is designed to maximize retention of now dislocated persons. 

Why do I say that? Because I don't see any exceptions in it for those people who want to get out, who want to just sell and run. If it were really for the motive of protecting the people, the people would still have there option and freedom to initiate the action themselves. 

I like the notion of protecting peoples privacy to process. What I don't like is seeing the removal of peoples options and freedoms to self select and engage in what they want to do. 

"If it were really for the motive of protecting the people, the people would still have there option and freedom to initiate the action themselves."
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I don't think it prevents you as an owner from initiating the action.

Personally, I wouldn't have any moratoriums on private transactions.



U can initiate a sale as the owner this is just a moratorium from investors or others wanting to swoop in and take advantage of folks at least that's what the state is doing or thinking this moratorium is going to do

If that's the case, I'm a fan. 

A surprised one, but a fan none the less. 

Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day, right. 

This is how government is supposed to work.

Post: LA fires Wholesalers Beware

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@Jay Hinrichs I'd love to think this is government working FOR the people, protecting there ability to process. My gut say's it's other motives. 

The timing of people most apt to say "F-it, I'm done with this stuff, I'm gonna take the $ and run" is in that 90 day period. 

Because that is when the impacts are most felt of everything one has to do with the now pile of ashes. 90 days to do nothing forces people to engage with staying. 

I have a feeling this is designed to maximize retention of now dislocated persons. 

Why do I say that? Because I don't see any exceptions in it for those people who want to get out, who want to just sell and run. If it were really for the motive of protecting the people, the people would still have there option and freedom to initiate the action themselves. 

I like the notion of protecting peoples privacy to process. What I don't like is seeing the removal of peoples options and freedoms to self select and engage in what they want to do. 

Post: Failed Leadership is why California is on fire.

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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
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bought some slugs for my 20 guage would not want to get hit with one of those.. My son and I go shooting most every weekend the Tillamook  forest has shooting lanes and its really cool up in  the big timber.. WE set up our clay thrower on a ridge and launch those things over the clear
 

 Speaking of those clay throwers, one of my most humbling moments as a  shooter was shooting clays with a Teams guy. I was barely hitting them with the 12 gauge, and he was taking them out of the air with his Glock 17...lol


I could do that if the clays were the size of a a garbage can lid :)  We have 4 different shot guns for clays just to get variety  berreta silver pigeon 20 and one 12.. my old remington 870 wingmaster I used to use for geese and my grandfathers browning auto light 12 which is 75 years old but shoots very well.. Big deal out here is going to be buying ammo.. The next RE play is going to be building ammo stores on the interstate and state lines between CA and NV and Oregon and WA and ID.. WE have all sorts of rifles and AK etc etc.. Its a pleansant afternoon with proper ear protection :)

Have you seen the ammo vending machines? 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/12/us/vending-machines-ammunitio...

Post: Subto FHA problem

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Here is a fundamental flaw to Sub2, that this situation seems to exemplify.

Ever hear of Prospect Theory

In short it's this: Seller is facing foreclosure nightmare. In theory they've tried all they can and are stuck on stupid feeling there life is about to be burnt to the ground. 

They are singularly focused to avoid the pain. 

So along comes Mr Sub2, singing how he will waive his hand and make the bad go away.

Seller is singularly focusing on that bad, nothing else, not a year later, just the here n now of making that bad go away. So they jump on it with both hands. 

Now were a year, 2, whatever later. The bad is long gone in the rear view mirror so now, that motivation of making the bad go away, has gone away. 

Now seller has other motives. Like in this case, wanting a new home. 

So now they start doing things to scratch that itch, and it starts unraveling the "perfect" Sub2 deal.

You contact them, say what the heck. But you don't find the same person you did back when. They are just a bit different, not so ecstatic to facilitate all your stuff as once was. Well duh, because that motive to alleviate the bad is gone. 

So now your scrambling, going onto forums trying to figure out how to get it all back to the Nirvana it was. And the "perfect" Sub2 deal ain't looking so "perfect" anymore.

And so you blame the seller, it's there fault, why couldn't they just be nervous Ned for all eternity. 

The fault is you tried to stretch a "solution" that has an expiration date of seller joy, into an eternity. You didn't think about there life, where there motives will shift too, what comes next 1, 2, 5 years down the road. 

The strategy was built on sand. 

Sub2 needs to be viewed like Hard Money. It's a bridge, not the road.

Post: Could This Be a New Way to Invest in Real Estate Without Buying the Whole Property?

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Quote from @Richard Volkov:
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Quote from @Richard Volkov:
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This is the worst idea I've ever heard. 

So your going to pitch me that for my rental property I want to sell, that your just gonna take half the revenues and I get left with 100% of the headaches and work of it. Oh, AND I get to add some new additional handcuffs to the mix.

Zero sense, it makes absolutely zero sense. 

Hello James! Let's clarify this real quick,

I understand this model wouldn’t work for every property owner, especially those who are looking to sell outright and walk away from the property entirely, and the approach isn’t designed to replace a traditional property sale. Worth knowing, that it is less about adding “handcuffs” and more about offering a different option for owners who aren’t ready to sell but need capital - money for renovations, maintenance, or any other need. It’s meant for owners who want to keep ownership of their property but need a way to access liquidity without taking on more debt or selling the asset outright. Property owners remain responsible for operations and maintenance, only because they retain full ownership. The model opens a pool of possibilities for owners who are prepared to hold and manage the property long-term. It’s more about offering a different option for owners who need capital, and offering investors to access the world of real estate investing fast and smart, like never before.


 So it's a loan....

You just detailed a loan. 

So why wouldn't they just get a loan? And use the revenues to secure? Those already exist in mass. I get calls literally weekly begging me to take the $ on various lenders of these. 

So why wouldn't I just take one of those loans and have none of the handcuffs, and keep 100% of my revenues. 

Again, it makes no sense. 

Structurally, it’s different. Traditional loans are debt—you borrow money, take on a repayment schedule, and owe interest, regardless of how the property performs. What this model does is provide funding by sharing future income, without adding debt and, except for those about income gathering to the platform, without adding repayment obligations to the property owner. Investors only receive a share of the income you actually generate, you will not owe a fixed repayment block.

Difference here is that this model is for owners who either don’t want to take on more debt, can’t qualify for the financing they need, or have little time.


At best, this is word games. 

With a loan, a person takes on a Debt Obligation. 

Exactly what is to be repaid is known, exactly what the cost for the use of those borrowed monies is known. Your payments are known. 

With this, your saying you get that money and then you LOOSE that % of revenues. And as you say it's an UNKNOWN amount, because it's a %. 

So when your talking to a seller you brag that $ amount of the % can go to $0 so "ha, ha, ha, pulled a fast one on that person who "bought" the cash flow". 

And when talking to a buy you say "ha, ha, ha, look at the deal we got, we got that person to give us all this $ from there cashflow"

The whole thing wreaks to high hell. 

If your LOOSING half your cash flow, how is that any different than having a payment on a loan? 

Other than your payment is NOT fixed, the "charge" for it all is NOT known or set...... 

And again, there is no such thing as ANY of these sellers not having other options because if a person has a cashflow to sell, they CAN get a loan on that cashflow now, today. 

A common term for these is payroll loan, but there is other terms as well. It's a loan based on your revenues. Comes with a known rate, a known term, a known payment. 

I can not picture a single scenario where this is a "solution" for anyone other than the middle man. 

This model isn’t a loan because there’s no debt obligation. Income rights being given up is defined upfront, and the property owner decides how much income they’re willing to share in exchange for the funds they receive. Owners get liquidity without taking on debt, and investors earn returns tied to the property’s performance. And its not replacing loans, but its an alternative that makes funds cheaper and faster to get, all in platform's ecosystem with investors desperate for new properties, buying tokens like bread.

Huh, that's weird Richard because you opened this post that you just "found" this and were asking about it.....

But you seem to respond as if your SELLING this.... 

Hmmmmmm.... 

Hey, here's a weird idea. How about clarity and up front honesty. 

If it's so great, then why the deceptive advertising/marketing tactics?