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All Forum Posts by: Mitch Messer

Mitch Messer has started 73 posts and replied 2076 times.

Post: Need Capital for a Land Purchase

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,221
  • Votes 1,767
Quote from @Carressa Walker:

Need capital of $250,000 for a land purchase. 108 Acres with a Yurt currently owned free and clear.  Valued at $500k.  Payback terms negotiable.  Need to close ASAP.  


This is interesting! I'd need to understand the situation a little better.

How are you planning to service this debt? Monthly payments? What would be the income source for those loan payments?

How long will you need the funding? What event in the future (resale, development, etc.) will allow you to repay the debt?

How was the land valuation determined? Is there a recent appraisal?

Finally, just to confirm, this is in Denver, Colorado, correct?

Thanks!

Post: Hard Money/ Private money lender

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,221
  • Votes 1,767
Quote from @Idalys Samuels:

How do I check the credibility of a lender? What are the requirements? What are the red flags? 

There are a ton of things you should check, but here's the most important thing to do FIRST: Get referrals of recent clients and then check them thoroughly.

Whatever you're told by the lender, confirm it ALL by speaking directly to the last three or four borrowers.

How easy was it to get approved? What was the actual interest rate charged? How many points were charged? How long did the process take? Was a personal guarantee required?

Ask it all, and more, and then listen very, very carefully to the answers.

And, if your "lender" won't give you the names and phone numbers of at least three recent borrowers, you should run!

Post: Off-market financing advice

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,221
  • Votes 1,767
Quote from @Chloe Hohman:
Quote from @Mitch Messer:
Quote from @Chloe Hohman:

My husband and I were recently connected with someone who would like to sell their townhome off-market (to avoid realtor fees, specifically). They owe about 80k on the property. Asking 240k for the property, but plan to up the asking price to 250k if/when they put it on the market this summer. They have tenants in the property who want to stay another year (until next August). My husband and I would like to propose some creative financing options...potentially offering a lease-to-own style option? While we have liquid to do a 5-15k downpayment, we'd like to use a minimal amount of our own money.


Seller is not in need of a lump sum of cash, and has said they would be open to monthly payments as a financing option. However, neither ourselves or the seller have experience in this kind of deal, so understand we will probably want to loop in legal advice as/if we proceed. Any advice is appreciated!


Sounds interesting!

I'd love to help y'all think this through, but a bit more information is needed:
1. Where (in which state) is the townhouse located?

2. What are the terms (payment amount, interest rate, duration, etc.) of the existing financing?
3. What rent are the tenants paying, and is it at-market?
4. What's the age and condition of the unit?
5. Is this a condo, or is it owned fee-simple?

Once we know this, we can then explore options!


 Hey great questions! 
1. The property is in Virginia

2. Don’t have the current terms but can get them

3. Tenants are currently paying $1500, which is at-market or slightly under (based on comps and location I think we can pull $1600-$1700) 

4. Unit was built in the 80s, moderately updated, well maintained by the sellers. HVAC unit is approx 20yrs old. 

5. Property is an owned fee-simple and a townhome comple


Thanks for the question & would love to hear your thoughts!


Thanks for the additional info.

Here's my take: These sellers are asking WAAAAAY too much for this as a rental!

At $1500/mo, and assuming a 40% operating expense ratio, you're looking at $10,800 in net operating income (NOI). Even assuming you paid cash and had NO capital expenditures and did NO necessary renovations, the $240K purchase price would put you at a 4.5% cash-on-cash return! That's a pitifully low CoCR to earn for all the hard work of being a landlord. We typically won't consider a deal lower than 9%.

In other words, for the amount of cash flow this deal generates, they are asking about TWICE what it's worth.

At the $240K asking price, I don't see a deal that would make sense.

I recommend you find out how they came up with this price and also why they're selling.

You've got time: I doubt this property is going anywhere anytime soon! 

Post: Off-market financing advice

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,221
  • Votes 1,767
Quote from @Chloe Hohman:

My husband and I were recently connected with someone who would like to sell their townhome off-market (to avoid realtor fees, specifically). They owe about 80k on the property. Asking 240k for the property, but plan to up the asking price to 250k if/when they put it on the market this summer. They have tenants in the property who want to stay another year (until next August). My husband and I would like to propose some creative financing options...potentially offering a lease-to-own style option? While we have liquid to do a 5-15k downpayment, we'd like to use a minimal amount of our own money.


Seller is not in need of a lump sum of cash, and has said they would be open to monthly payments as a financing option. However, neither ourselves or the seller have experience in this kind of deal, so understand we will probably want to loop in legal advice as/if we proceed. Any advice is appreciated!


Sounds interesting!

I'd love to help y'all think this through, but a bit more information is needed:
1. Where (in which state) is the townhouse located?

2. What are the terms (payment amount, interest rate, duration, etc.) of the existing financing?
3. What rent are the tenants paying, and is it at-market?
4. What's the age and condition of the unit?
5. Is this a condo, or is it owned fee-simple?

Once we know this, we can then explore options!

Post: Best place to list rentals

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,221
  • Votes 1,767
Quote from @Mitch Messer:
Quote from @David Yandel:

Curious what the consensus would be on where to list rental at? There’s a plethora of tools out there, but looking for advice on where people have had the most success that has gotten quality long term tenants? 


Not an endorsement. I have no connection to RentEngine.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/where-do-tenants-come-from-re...


Zillow is unquestionably the 800lb gorilla in the rental listing space.

From the above article:

Listing sources

Showings sources

Post: Why Florida Condo Rentals are a HARD PASS for Me!

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,221
  • Votes 1,767
Quote from @Greg M.:

I'm not sure why this would be a hard pass for you. It's protecting your investment. 

It's pretty simple. Buildings require maintenance. Money needs to be set aside for that maintenance. Failure to have funds for maintenance results in maintenance not being done and that leads to problems like structural issues. The government of Florida (and other states) require building inspections and money be set aside (Reserve Funds) to fix problems so that things like balconies crashing to the ground doesn't happen.

Her HOA has underfunded their reserves. This is a common problem. Every owner wants low HOA Dues and then something expensive comes along and they all cry that it's not fair they need to pay an assessment. These assessments aren't just disappearing into thin air, they will be used for maintenance that will help stabilize/increase the value of her property.

Your SFH requires maintenance and you should have reserves for that. This is no different.


I completely get why condo associations need to levy special assessments and increase monthly fees, and specifically in this case to comply with the recently passed laws in Florida.

My objection is to buying these FL condos as possible rental properties.

Buying condos for investment is already a risky proposition. You're entirely at the mercy of the condo board, which could completely restrict your ability to rent at any time. You've got potential issues with noisy neighbors near you and flooding risks from units above you. And then, when you're ready to sell, your buyer can't use FHA or VA financing unless your association is on "the list" of approved condos.

This recent development just makes things so much worse!

So, yes, as an investor I'm a big NOPE on the prospect of being stuck for a $15.5K assessment AND having my monthly condo dues nearly triple from $651 to $1,824!

Post: Why Florida Condo Rentals are a HARD PASS for Me!

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,221
  • Votes 1,767

I'm often presented with opportunities to acquire investment condos in Orlando, Miami, and other popular Florida cities.

I always decline.

Read the article below to understand better why "condo" and "Florida" are now a particularly bad combination!

#JustSayNoToInvestmentCondos

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/desperate-help-young-flor...

Post: Stair code & tenant agreements

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,221
  • Votes 1,767
Quote from @Micah Loewen:

I have a situation where my stairs are not 100% to code in Texas. Can I include something in the Rental Agreement where they would sign, acknowledging the stair issue and that we are not liable? 

(additional info: changing the stairs or getting new ones would be a massive undertaking)


You might be able to get them to sign some sort of waiver, but then if anyone gets seriously hurt it likely won't save you.

Some attorney will argue you willfully ignored a known safety issue, and as the "big bad landlord" you'll lose your shirt and then some.

Plus, your post here will be Exhibit A and definitely won't win you any points with a judge!

I'd fix it and move on.

Post: Best 1031 company near Cobb County, Georgia

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,221
  • Votes 1,767
Quote from @Jennifer Burgener:

Any suggestions on a good 1031 exchange company?


I was recently referred to First American Exchange Company by an attorney I trust.

I'm happy to share the contact info, if you reach out (see my BP profile for how).

Post: Best place to list rentals

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,221
  • Votes 1,767
Quote from @David Yandel:

Curious what the consensus would be on where to list rental at? There’s a plethora of tools out there, but looking for advice on where people have had the most success that has gotten quality long term tenants? 


Not an endorsement. I have no connection to RentEngine.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/where-do-tenants-come-from-re...