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All Forum Posts by: Mitch Messer

Mitch Messer has started 73 posts and replied 2085 times.

Post: Wholesaler looking for renovation quote help

Mitch Messer#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,232
  • Votes 1,784
Quote from @Alex Ferranti:

@Mitch Messer thank you for your reply, the repair budget is what I'm struggling with, I was thinking about bringing a contractor when I walk a house. Do you have any advice for using the pictures provided? I am a relator so I can do the ARV on comparable homes. Thank you again.


If you can walk it with the contractor, that would be my #1 recommendation.

As a distant second, you could gather up all the photos and vids you have and just send those to your contractor to get their high-level estimate.

But, you want #1, not just because it's more accurate, but also because you get to ask your contractor questions as they walk the property to better understand what they are looking for!

Post: First investment Construct and Rent

Mitch Messer#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,232
  • Votes 1,784

@Jessica Uresti It sounds like a major renovation, so you may be getting in over your heads on your first deal.

But, let's talk numbers first: Can you share the financials that indicate "$400 -$900 profit a month?"

Also, what exactly was the quote provided by the contractor?

Post: Wholesaler looking for renovation quote help

Mitch Messer#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,232
  • Votes 1,784
Quote from @Alex Ferranti:

Hello all, I'm new to the renovation game in real estate as I just got out of college. My big question is when quoting a renovation, since I don't have the experience what is the best way to come up with the right ARV so I can make the right offer. Is it just time and experience, knowing what costs what or is there a better way?

@Alex Ferranti, do you mean "after-repair value (ARV)" or "repair budget?"

The ARV is determined by sales of nearby comparable homes. If you can get a local agent to pull a list of recent transactions, you should be able to estimate, based on the photos, what your target property will sell for post-renovation.

The repair budget is the list of repairs (with estimated costs) required to make your target property look like the "ARV homes" you found above. An experienced investor could walk a property and work up that list. For now, you'll need to engage an experienced general contractor to help you identify the repairs needed and the associated costs.

Post: Talking to Lenders (Augusta,Ga)(North Augusta,sc)

Mitch Messer#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,232
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Quote from @Alfred Dublin:

Hey everybody, hope everybody doing Good today!!!

I first want to thank this community and this platform for being such a help to my continued growth and education. 

I will be talking to lenders this week, calling around. I was wondering if anybody got any tips, topics, questions, and/or talking points they feel would be important?

This would be my first property, looking for a house hack 2-3 units would be nice. I also wouldn’t shy from a deal of a sfh that would postpone househacking. Lower end of capital and not eager for a money grab but still wanting to build capital and start this journey for my family and I. Goal ever building rental portfolio.

@Alfred Dublin I'm not saying you shouldn't call around, just be aware that no lender can/will really engage with you until there's an actual deal on the table. There are just too many variables to consider.

So, just make sure your calls are short and sweet: Get the high-level facts and then wrap it up!

Once you do have a deal, make absolutely certain the numbers make sense, and then circle back to your lenders.

Post: Shadow on creative financing deals?

Mitch Messer#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,232
  • Votes 1,784
Quote from @Shanna Chan:

Would anyone experienced in Seller Financing and/or Subject To in the US be willing to let me shadow a deal? 

I am new to real estate investing and am interested in acquiring STR properties through creative financing. While I understand the concepts
nothing beats seeing these deals in action.

I would be grateful for the opportunity and am happy to offer my assistance in conducting research, organizing materials, or handling administrative tasks in return.  Excited to collaborate! 



Great idea, @Shanna Chan!

Are you looking to physically shadow on a seller-finance deal, or to do so virtually?

If in-person, where are you located?

Post: Security deposit/ damage

Mitch Messer#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,232
  • Votes 1,784
Quote from @Greg Strunak:
Quote from @Mitch Messer:
Quote from @Greg Strunak:

Bp friends, we recently just had our first bad guest. Long story short they brought dogs(against our house rules) the dogs damaged the furniture. They also smoked weed in the house stinking the whole house up badly and stained a brand new bedsheet, trespassed on our neighbors property making them very upset. Any tips on dealing with these issues. Also we are thinking about implementing a security deposit, does anybody do this. 

I hate that this happened to you! Was this booked through Airbnb?
Yes this was a air bnb booking.

I believe Airbnb has a system in place for handling disputes between guests and hosts, and they may offer compensation for damages or issues caused by a guest.

I would start by documenting everything: A detailed written description of the incident and timeline, records of all your communications with the guests, before/after photos of the damage done to the furniture and the bedsheet, a statement from the neighbors about the trespassing incident, etc.

Then I'd approach Airbnb looking for guidance.

Post: Security deposit/ damage

Mitch Messer#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,232
  • Votes 1,784
Quote from @Greg Strunak:

Bp friends, we recently just had our first bad guest. Long story short they brought dogs(against our house rules) the dogs damaged the furniture. They also smoked weed in the house stinking the whole house up badly and stained a brand new bedsheet, trespassed on our neighbors property making them very upset. Any tips on dealing with these issues. Also we are thinking about implementing a security deposit, does anybody do this. 

I hate that this happened to you! Was this booked through Airbnb?

Post: I’m interested in partnering with someone to buy real estate.

Mitch Messer#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,232
  • Votes 1,784
Quote from @Alan Scott Hobbs:

How much would the owner have to come down for the deal to be profitable?


That's the million-dollar question!

It's impossible to know without a deep-dive into the condition of the property, the projected renovations, and finance options.

But you should still try to answer the question! 

You can (and should!) start building a basic underwriting spreadsheet so you can play with the various deal inputs, test out different scenarios, and see how they perform financially.

Analyzing deals is the only way one really learns to think like an investor!

Post: I’m interested in partnering with someone to buy real estate.

Mitch Messer#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,232
  • Votes 1,784
Quote from @Alan Scott Hobbs:

I own my own home and have one rental property paying for itself and paying me but other than that I don’t have a lot of expertise.  I’m steadily learning more and more as I go along.  I don’t have access to a lot of money but I’m interested in acquiring small multi family properties.  
There is a 24 unit newly renovated property for sale that the owners paid 1.3 million for before they renovated it and now they’re asking 2.99 million.  They’ve come down $400,000 but they’ll definitely have to come down more before anyone will probably get interested.  The single bedroom apartments must be about 1488 square feet from my calculations because 35,719 square feet divided by 24 is 1488 which is quite large for a single bedroom apartment..  The apartments are about one mile from Augusta’s medical district which could make the apartments attractive to nurses working at the hospitals.  There is no way I could afford anything like that but I wish I could get a small percentage of ownership if I help broker a deal and see that the place is managed properly. The listing agency is saying it would be about $20,000.00 per month to borrow that much but considering you should be able to get a bare minimum of $1,250.00 each unit per month, and probably more, there is some cash flow that could be made.  Let me know what you think.

Hey @Alan Scott Hobbs, thanks for responding with some data to crunch!

At $1250/unit/mo and 24 units, we're looking at gross income of $360K. For simplicity sake, let's assume a 40% expense ratio, giving a net operating income (NOI) of $216K.

If we were to buy at their asking price of $2.99 million, we'd be looking at a cash-on-cash return of 7.2%, and that's without factoring in capital expenditures or debt service.

I'd say this one has a looong way to fall before it's a deal!

Post: How am I (buyer) protected when purchasing land through seller financing?

Mitch Messer#3 Classifieds ContributorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,232
  • Votes 1,784

Hey @A.j. Silva, why do a land contract?

If I'm putting $40K down on a land deal, I'm getting the deed!

Also, if the property were to foreclose, it would be because you defaulted on your note! You presumably wouldn't allow that happen if you still had equity in the deal.

But, if you did lose the property to foreclosure, it would be auctioned off. Any "equity" held in the property would first go toward paying off your note balance (as you would expect).