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All Forum Posts by: Kevin Kohler

Kevin Kohler has started 19 posts and replied 213 times.

Post: Anyone Raising a Single-Asset Multifamily Syndication or Know of One?

Kevin KohlerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker | Investor | Property Manager
  • Plantation, FL
  • Posts 228
  • Votes 68
Quote from @Melanie P.:

Please help a dummy like me understand why you think this would be a good time to be a minority investor in large multi family?


 First off, please don't feel like a dummy.  Real estate is a complex industry with a LOT of niche ways to be active (or passive) within the space.  No one knows everything!

There are many things that counter your sentiment of concern of investing in the current capital market environment.  In commercial investments like syndications, you have a lot more creativity and flexibility to acquire a property on positive terms.  These could be terms that end up insulating you from risks that the majority of the market could be affected by.

For example, I am co-sponsor of a multifamily investment right now that is assuming debt at 3.64% fixed-rate interest with a loan term lasting for 8 more years.  This allows our group to be protected from the high interest-rate volatility that is prevalent right now.  

That is an example on how you can "Buy Right" when looking for a property.  Also, when buying a larger asset, you are scaling your operating costs and maintenance costs to a lower operating expense % (unless you are buying distressed assets).  

At the end of the day you should look a lot closer at information provided by an operator to validate their claims.  Don't just take their word for it, because you want to know that you are buying into a cash flowing asset that will at least come close to projections.  Personally, I wanted our underwriting to be so conservative that we would be able to mitigate a majority of the risk.  The only result to our team has been a slow yet steady stream of LP investments rather than a flood of initial requests.  We are happy about this because the quality of LPs that have joined has been strong and we can sleep easier at night knowing we haven't needed to hype or over-promise at all.  

Happy to chat further about your specific concerns on timing in today's market...

Post: Properties self managed

Kevin KohlerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker | Investor | Property Manager
  • Plantation, FL
  • Posts 228
  • Votes 68

If you own them you are exempted from this condition. I am a FL broker and property manager 

Post: Anyone Raising a Single-Asset Multifamily Syndication or Know of One?

Kevin KohlerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker | Investor | Property Manager
  • Plantation, FL
  • Posts 228
  • Votes 68

@Scott Trench I am currently raising on a 506(c) 120-unit multifamily acquisition set to close within a matter of weeks once Freddie Mac completes the review of our low interest rate debt assumption.  Happy to chat further.

Post: 506B apartment complex syndication advice needed

Kevin KohlerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker | Investor | Property Manager
  • Plantation, FL
  • Posts 228
  • Votes 68
Quote from @Amy Lin:

Hi all, 

We have came to know a syndication opportunity which is a 506B syndication deal of an 100+ doors apartment complex in Texas. We are not credited and mainly invest in SFRs.  I have read so many posts on BP forum and tried to learn as much as I can about syndication this pass few days and it has been very helpful! 

As for this deal, there are about 10 GPs and projected equity multipler is 2.3x, 5 year fixed rate with Fannie Mea at 5.6%, 3 year IO and 1-2% pre payment penalty. It's gonna be a value-add project of a C class property. Current occupancy rate is 94% and they stated that for us to make the mortage payments to break even, occupancy rate just need to be about 65%. 


It appears that there are 6 GPs going to be doing assess management. I was wondering if that's the norm for the industry ? They said there is no single main operator, each 6 GPs have their own strengths and  will be in charge of different parts of the operation. Also none of the primary GPs have finished a full-cycle with their other syndication.


Any advice for Newbie like us? We are looking to invest the minimum amount 50k.

As someone doing Agency deals right now (506b and 506c), I would say that is a lot of GPs and they better all perform a specific role.

Also, Agency lenders will not approve a loan for a property with occupancy low or near 65%.  It needs to stay above 80% to avoid going into default.  To an agency lender, the 10 GPs are not actually GP's.  Please ask to see the organization chart they are submitting to Fannie/Freddie.  Only the people listed as "Managing member" will be considered a GP and would be allowed to have control/say in what happens on the property.

Post: House Hacking question

Kevin KohlerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker | Investor | Property Manager
  • Plantation, FL
  • Posts 228
  • Votes 68

@James Coleman I would be happy to provide a 3rd party review of the property and numbers to provide you an analysis.  I have worked with house hack clients in the past and also am familiar with Jupiter (I have family in Juno Beach and grandparents were in Jupiter 20+ years).  

The % that your other unit covers is a metric that fluctuates rather highly.  Let's dig into some of the other numbers as well to ensure you have an underwrite that is conservative so that you have "all your bases covered" in terms of risk.  The lower the risk, the better the option to buy!

Post: Is creating a syndication worth it? Lawyer recommendations for real estate partnershi

Kevin KohlerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker | Investor | Property Manager
  • Plantation, FL
  • Posts 228
  • Votes 68

Setting up a syndication is expensive and should not be done on a whim.  The corporate structure should be advised by a CPA, not just the opinions of the general partners.  What size is the property you are considering and will the returns cover the legal fees to setup the syndication and get all documentation drafted?  I would budget about $20k+ for syndication related expenses.  Happy to discuss further.  

Post: Limited Partner Syndication / Funds

Kevin KohlerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker | Investor | Property Manager
  • Plantation, FL
  • Posts 228
  • Votes 68
Quote from @Scott Trench:

Here's a starting point for your consideration. It's a WIP Checklist with my latest thinking: 

And, FWIW, I think that we are almost at "go time" in the syndication world. Asset values are cratering. I'm in one deal that lost almost 40% of it's value. Luckily, only have a tiny portion of my wealth in deals that started prior to 2023. I will probably lose everything on those.I think that by summer, we could be seeing one of the greatest buying opportunities in this asset class in US history. 

"Good" For the Sponsor: 

- Sponsor has been in business a long time, or is making a logical, short, next step with this fund, or continuing work on bread and butter. I.E. sponsor has been doing $50M apartment complexes, and is taking on a $65M property, sponsor is not starting a $150M fund after being in business for 1 year. 

- This deal and/or fund is their full-time job. The person raising the funds is working on the deal, or a small subset of deals, full-time, and has no other businesses that will take up any material portion of their time. They intend to be on-site working in and on the asset(s) weekly (ideally daily).

- Sponsor has substantial experience in target market, and target asset class. This is not their first venture into Atlanta, when they have spent their whole career in Boston. 

- Sponsor is transparent about current project performance. They do not tout returns from deals sold in 2019/2020. They are proud of the way they are currently operating in this environment (or better yet, that they avoided the current environment altogether) and are happy to disclose that they are only 5-10% off their NOI targets, compared to peers who aren't even in the ballpark, and have issued no capital calls or distribution pauses. If they are having problems, like recent capital calls, they are disclosing them upfront, and talking about how they intend to make current investors whole, while also pursuing the opportunity that current pricing presents.

- The sponsor is putting in a material amount of equity alongside LPs and are open and upfront about the amount. They are transparent about their fees. They have the possibility of materially losing alongside LPs, in addition to the upside they are working to earn. Their guaranteed fees from acquisition, management, and disposition do not dwarf their co-invest, though they may (rightfully so) win big with carried interest if the deal works out. While not realistic, "perfect" in my world amounts to the sponsor and their team earning modest salaries during the hold period, and having big upside if the deal works out and LP capital is returned with a pref.

"Good" from the Deal: 

- Market / Strategy Make Sense: In a growth market, there is a value add plan and reasonable assumptions around rent growth. In a cash flow market, there is a discount to going cap rates, and a heavy value-add / repositioning plan to reduce costs. 

Value add plan makes sense at the highest level: A property with dated units, but an investment plan to repave the parking lot, does not solve the problem. 

- Recent Comps for cap rate:  Sponsor provides clear example of comps sold in last 90 days to determine cap rate, and does this for each asset being contemplated. If a new fund, without a deal identified, sponsor shows recently sold deals they would have bought had the fund been in existence in the preceding 90 days. 

- Projection model has reasonable conservative assumptions: 

1) I don't want to hear about a base case where the sponsor thinks they are going to buy the asset at a 6/5 cap and then sell it in 3-5 years at a 5/4 cap. Not going to happen, unless they have a massive repositioning project that fundamentally changes the type of renter it attracts.

2) Rent growth is reasonable, and sponsor does not just talk about inbound migration, income, and growth in the market, but also talks about supply coming online in their market as a threat to rent increases, and how they think about the balance. 

- No Complex Equity Tiers: Deal has a single, or maybe two, class(es) of investable equity and no complicated tiering program for larger investors. High minimums are fine. 

- Leverage Terms are clear and reasonable: I'm personally not interested in deals with more than 60/40 debt to equity ratios (not that most sponsors can get much beyond that in today's environment. Longer amortizations, balloons, lower rates, and fixed interest rates all de-risk the project, but it's case by case. Sponsor is clear about who is guaranteeing the debt, and if that person has special investor treatment.

A couple of other items: 

- I'm staying away from "preferred equity" - I am not interested in being a second position lender on any real estate assets right now. I might be interested at rates north of 15% at light leverage ratios. 

- I'm staying away from the markets with the most construction going on, including large parts of Texas, Florida, and the West, including my hometown of Denver. 

This is pretty on point and I appreciate this being posted for all to see.  THERE ARE A LOT of operators that are BS artists and/or they just jumped in post-pandemic and have no idea what they are doing.  I recently was sent a competing offering to a deal that offered a 13% PREF to the LP investor...When I was sent the underwriting, there was NOWHERE in that spreadsheet that actually showed the pref being paid out...even as a catchup at dispo.  

My team has been raising for a syndication in the FL panhandle and the raise has gone a little slower than we liked because we 1) underwrote it very conservatively so it doesn't mislead people, 2) We do not hype the deal when speaking with potential LPs - It is simply an investment our GP team is making with millions of our own capital and we are inviting people to join us on the journey, and 3) We are not dropping massive amounts of money on a marketing machine and doing word of mouth and old fashioned networking to get the word out.  
All of these would make other operators panic, but we know its fine thanks to our 3.64% fixed debt assumption and Seller reinvesting to the deal with a chunk of his cap gains.

Post: Need recommendation for Passive Real Estate Investment Attorney

Kevin KohlerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker | Investor | Property Manager
  • Plantation, FL
  • Posts 228
  • Votes 68

I know of several and would be happy to assist in the morning.  I have worked with some personally and have partners that have worked with the others.

Post: Have 100k to invest, what do I do with it

Kevin KohlerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker | Investor | Property Manager
  • Plantation, FL
  • Posts 228
  • Votes 68

Do you know if you are considered Accredited or not?

Post: $5.3M to use but 0 experience. Advice...?

Kevin KohlerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker | Investor | Property Manager
  • Plantation, FL
  • Posts 228
  • Votes 68

Split it into a few options to diversify your risk.  I am sure this post is causing you to be bombarded by requests for calls and such.  There are investment opportunities everywhere.  The fact is speak to the operators, get a feel for the business plans of each acquisition, and review the numbers with their team.  They need to be able to follow their underwriting and show the experience that they would be honest and true stewards of your investment dollars.