It's kinda weird to see people ripping on someone who was a guest on the podcast. If he was a scammer shouldn't they remove that episode or put some kind of advisory up on it?
I'm not sure what the deal is with the oceanpointe thing - what exactly has Morris been accused of and what has been proven?
I'm seeing several things said that don't match up with what Clayton says in a lot of his videos such as:
- Saying the properties aren't C's. He says over and over that he picks C's on purpose
- Saying they do poor rehab work. Where's the proof of that?
- Saying they purposefully push out phone schedules as a scam. Where is the proof of that?
- Sloppy closings - where is the proof of that?
- mention of 20% returns. He says over and over that he shoots for 10% to 12% returns
- That the returns he talks about are too good to be true. I understand the concerns around $40k properties but is 10% to 12% on a $40k out of pocket expense really *that* impressive? I thought it was good for sure but I've seen plenty of deals in other places that were better than that on paper.
I don't have any association but I talked to Clayton a couple years back after hearing him on podcast. Never pulled the trigger on buying a property. I also have been looking again recently. I scheduled a call today and they had slots available next day.
I also am still doing research on Morris not sure if I'll pull the trigger...
EDIT: In doing more searching I came across this thread with some specifics on a bad experience someone had with Morris. (https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/552021-morris-invest-experience-yet-another-one). Good to see some more objective specifics.