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All Forum Posts by: Kalen Jordan

Kalen Jordan has started 31 posts and replied 144 times.

Originally posted by @Kevin Chan:

Thanks for the input everyone.  I guess I really need to try and focus on getting to know a property manager and an agent I can work with and trust.  If there's anyone out there looking for another California investor to work with.. please send me a message.  I'm very motivated to get my first investment property under my belt.

 Out of curiosity why not look into a turnkey? I'm also looking to get into my first investment property and leaning that direction to minimize risks. 

Originally posted by @Ian Ippolito:
Originally posted by @Kalen Jordan:
Originally posted by @Ian Ippolito:

@Bree Wijnaar, I have a significant amount of my portfolio in syndications and am happy to share with you the relevant ones that have done well for me. But it may or may not be useful, depending on how similar or different your risk tolerance is. I am a conservative investor, so someone who is aggressive will have a completely different opinion on things. Where do you fall on the spectrum?

Also, I would not actually recommend starting with picking syndication sponsors, because you can end up with an unbalanced portfolio and accidentally take on more risk than you want or are expecting. If you haven’t done so already, I would recommend taking a step back and determining first how much of your investment portfolio do you want to put in real estate. Then figure out what you want to allocate to the different strategies (core, core plus, value added, opportunistic), capital stack types (equity, debt), asset type (Multi family, retail, office, self storage, hotel, etc). Then look for the top 2 to 3 sponsors in that area to investigate further.

I'm also considering doing my first investment into a syndication and would love to hear about your experience. 

 Well I could take up your next couple of years if I chose to talk about the entire subject. Is there a specific question or set of questions you have?

Haha! Would love to know as much as possible about the deals you've been involved in to date. I find that every time I learn about the details of another deal I learn a little more about what types of things to look for, what to look out for, what kinds of returns are possible, etc. I'm soaking it all up right now! Thanks! 

Post: Questions to ask Turnkey Providers

Kalen JordanPosted
  • Austin
  • Posts 149
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I was thinking of putting together a spreadsheet to compile the answers to these questions from all of the different turnkey companies in order to compare apples to apples.

Has anyone done that kind of thing before?

i know there is the turnkey reviews site but that's a little different. 

Post: Has anyone worked with SmartLand TK??

Kalen JordanPosted
  • Austin
  • Posts 149
  • Votes 80
Originally posted by @Timothy Myshrall:

James,

I have several postings about Smartland in forum. I have purchased several homes from them since 2015. The homes are renovated well. There have been no maintenance costs. They screen tenants very well. There has been no turnover, late rent or any other tenant issues. I plan to continue investing with them. If you have specific things that you would like to discuss, please feel free to directly message me.

Tim

 Curious how things are going for you 2 years later? 

Originally posted by @Theo Hicks:

There are a lot of forums where people list out credible apartment syndicators. But you still want to know how to qualify a syndicator. Trust, but verify. There are also a lot of forums and blog posts with questions to ask a syndicator before investing in their deal.

Can you link to some of those references with good questions to ask? 

Originally posted by @Ian Ippolito:

@Bree Wijnaar, I have a significant amount of my portfolio in syndications and am happy to share with you the relevant ones that have done well for me. But it may or may not be useful, depending on how similar or different your risk tolerance is. I am a conservative investor, so someone who is aggressive will have a completely different opinion on things. Where do you fall on the spectrum?

Also, I would not actually recommend starting with picking syndication sponsors, because you can end up with an unbalanced portfolio and accidentally take on more risk than you want or are expecting. If you haven’t done so already, I would recommend taking a step back and determining first how much of your investment portfolio do you want to put in real estate. Then figure out what you want to allocate to the different strategies (core, core plus, value added, opportunistic), capital stack types (equity, debt), asset type (Multi family, retail, office, self storage, hotel, etc). Then look for the top 2 to 3 sponsors in that area to investigate further.

I'm also considering doing my first investment into a syndication and would love to hear about your experience. 

Post: Turnkey provider in the Des Moines area?

Kalen JordanPosted
  • Austin
  • Posts 149
  • Votes 80
Originally posted by @Luke Miller:

@Peter S. turnkey properties have their place for investors who want to stay in control of their investment. Folks who have make the decision that single family homes are the best option for their specific scenario and they understand that there are potential downsides to purchasing at a distance are perfect for TK. 

However, my beef with turnkey properties is that they are sold as a "passive" way to invest in real estate. Every person I know who has bought a turnkey property spends a massive amount of time (in proportion to being passive) dealing with problems. Common issues are: rehabs, evictions, management issues, city issues, etc...

The reason you're hearing so much about syndications lately is since private equity offerings were opened up to basically everyone a few years ago, people are finding out that there truly is a passive way to invest. There are obvious downsides to that as well, but for investors looking for true passivity, it can't be beat. From the turnkey offerings I have seen, the returns on my deals are close if not the same. Difference being, much more tax advantaged and total passivity. 

 Syndications sound interesting. What are the downsides? Is there any way to protect or insure your money or are you basically just handing it over and trusting it to the other party? 

Post: Thoughts on syndications such as Gelt?

Kalen JordanPosted
  • Austin
  • Posts 149
  • Votes 80

I recently came across Gelt (https://www.geltinc.com/) - seems like a great option to invest in. I think this is what is referred to as a syndication but not totally sure?

Seems like they've gotten some pretty amazing returns.

I have to say that I do like the level of control of owning a SFH where you own it directly and have a degree of control over it. But I also like the simplicity of not having to deal with any of the details of management.

Is there anything that you can do to ensure that your money is safe?

Gelt seems like a really solid operation and I've been following some of the people on Twitter - they seem like great people.

I think of these examples of like Bernie Madoff who was massively trusted by people in the industry and ended up just being a scam. How do you know that's not the case for syndications? How do you know your money is safe?

Post: Turnkey provider in the Des Moines area?

Kalen JordanPosted
  • Austin
  • Posts 149
  • Votes 80

34.1% annual rate of return on a financed purchase?

https://www.turnkeyiowa.com/1430-idaho-street

That seems very high - is that realistic?

Post: Data source for rents / vacancy rates

Kalen JordanPosted
  • Austin
  • Posts 149
  • Votes 80

Is there a good data source for looking at trends in vacancy rates / rents in specific markets? 

I know that zillow has some of that functionality but it only goes back 10 years so for example it's not possible to look at data from the last market crash, which is exactly what I want to look - get an idea of worst case scenarios.