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All Forum Posts by: James Vermillion

James Vermillion has started 17 posts and replied 2678 times.

Post: Unlimited Golf and Profits ?

James VermillionPosted
  • Lexington, KY
  • Posts 2,920
  • Votes 1,190
Originally posted by John Hicks:
I have this unusual concept for a golf course operation.
The all-in expense budget is $1M annually which I want to meet upfront.

100 Investors @ $10K per year or 50 investors @ $20K per year or $25 Investors at $40 per year, ETC...................

Investors receive UNLIMITED GOLF for themselves & 1 accompanying guest with no other fees or dues whatsoever.

The annual revenue comes from various sources:

1. 20K additional rounds @ $45 equals $900K.
2. Food & Merchandise Sales Profit of $100K
3. Normal Monthly Memberships equals $100K
4. Events & Tournaments equals $100K
5. Lessons equal $12K

Total Revenue equals $1,212,000.

ROI 21.2%

Please give me some feedback on this scenario.


There are obviously a lot of questions that would have to be answered about your numbers. I know you say you used various sources but how accurate do you think those numbers are? Do you have proof that those numbers are attainable? Have you actually seen those numbers work before?

Opening/managing a golf course is a huge task I am sure, do you have any experience is the golf business, or a strong partner to go in on this with you? I know I did not at all help you, but I am concerned that the analysis is not anywhere near enough to even begin to look at.

I am glad these crooks got busted...this was not a simple ignorance of the law situation, this was a case of swindling people out of their money. This proves two things:
1) Do not try to rip people off, it will eventually come back to you
2) Be careful w/ securities laws (same goes for tax laws, landlord laws, etc.)

Post: Painter wants 25% down to paint house

James VermillionPosted
  • Lexington, KY
  • Posts 2,920
  • Votes 1,190

I would not do this with a painter I have not used before. If it were someone I had used in the past and they were getting so much business that they changed their policy, that would be a whole different story.

I cannot choose one specific piece of advice, but I can think of one general theme that has really helped me....LEARN. Everyone wants to jump right in and start doing "deals". I was the same way when I caught the real estate bug, but BP helped me control my emotions and educate myself before I made any poor, uninformed decisions. In the business a lot can go wrong, and it s up to each person to limit the risks they are taking while maximizing profits. Through BP I learned this the easy way and saved myself a lot of problems.

Email is somewhat useless for certain things including screening people. Just think, people use the internet to scam people every day...why? Because it is very easy! Through email applicants have too much time to come up with lies, schemes, scams, plans, etc. They can avoid answering for hours or even days and just say they did not have a chance to reply to the email. At least if they are lying on the phone, they have to be better liars, and you have a much better chance of catching the truth.

Post: rehab question

James VermillionPosted
  • Lexington, KY
  • Posts 2,920
  • Votes 1,190
Originally posted by RobTheHouseGuy1:
I am speaking as a very experienced rehabber that owns a construction company, and as a very experienced wholesaler. I say this not to impress you, but to impress upon you that out of the two, wholesaling is MUCH better in most cases.
Take that house that you can buy for 12k, and assign your contract for 3k to someone that does not mind doing the work. Then move on to the next one.
In my early days 15 years ago, I was knocking it out of the park wholesaling! Then I decided to get greedy and I wanted to rehab like all of the people I was selling to. Before I knew it, I had 15k per month in hard money payments due, and was supporting all of my rehab costs with my profits from wholesaling.
Everybody learns somehow. I learned through mistakes, lucky for you, Bigger Pockets is around to guide you a bit! Good luck man! I am sure you will be a great success! :D

I disagree that wholesaling is better than rehabbing in most cases. If you don’t have any money, they yes, wholesaling is often your best/only option. If you found yourself owing a ton of hard money payments due, you more than likely made a mistake or several along the way. It does not take a ton of money. My business partner and I each put about 9K into our first property, and we are looking at making 35-40K. That being said, it did take a lot of work. We spend an entire year developing our business plan, becoming licensed agents, working with a mentor, developing relationships (banks, contractors, brokers, lawyers, accountants, etc), filing LLC paperwork, preparing the operating agreement, etc.

All of that work has already started to pay off. Of the dozens of wholesalers I know, very few are successful. I am not saying it cannot be done, or that you should not do it, but rehabbing can and will work if you put the time/effort/thought/planning!

Post: BiggerPockets Real Estate Conference: Is it time?

James VermillionPosted
  • Lexington, KY
  • Posts 2,920
  • Votes 1,190
Originally posted by Bryan Hancock:
Bring it Rich...We need a bet on Texas/BYU next year too...friendly of course.

With the way UTerus is looking I wouldnt bet on them to beat anyone :mrgreen:

Post: A great way to sell your real estate

James VermillionPosted
  • Lexington, KY
  • Posts 2,920
  • Votes 1,190
Originally posted by Financexaminer:
I just took the time to delet over 600 emails and read 4, replied to 2. Please try again.

I think he may have meant people do not open 90% of their emails, or in your case 99+%...I am not sure though.

Post: First rehab on the market! Thanks!

James VermillionPosted
  • Lexington, KY
  • Posts 2,920
  • Votes 1,190

Just a quick update. The one potential buyer could not get the financing they needed. The house just went on the MLS and has already generated a lot of interest and a couple offers. I am really hoping we can get it under contract in the next several weeks.

Also, this weekend we put two REO properties under contract! I am very excited about the potential of these 2 and cannot wait to get started on them.

Post: Flippers Priced Out of Market Now?

James VermillionPosted
  • Lexington, KY
  • Posts 2,920
  • Votes 1,190

We have started to see things looking better from the flipper perspective, in fact we were having a lot of problems getting offers accepted for the last several months...last week we had two and are on the verge of a third.