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All Forum Posts by: Benjamin Cowles

Benjamin Cowles has started 92 posts and replied 441 times.

Originally posted by @Doug Pretorius:

@Benjamin Cowles What do you mean by "10% of the purchase price"? If you mean getting it under contract at 10% of the value of the property, then hell yes you'll make out like a bandit! If you mean 10% OFF the value then yes you might be able to make some money, with a lot of hard work. If you mean actually paying the seller 10% of the purchase price for an option then NO that would be a great way to lose your shirt.

Personally I've never paid more than $1 for a straight option. I've had straight options on well over 100 properties and I've tried a variety of strategies.

I've tried getting them 5-15% below market value and marketing them myself. This is an unbelievable pain in the backside and not at all worth your trouble, if this is all you can get the seller down, then you're far better off taking over their payments and renting or renting-to-own.

The only way that straight options really work is to get the property for an absolutely bare minimum of 15% below market value and hiring an agent to sell it for you. This is called wholetailing, you might want to read up about it here on the forum. Essentially you can list the property at 95% of market for a quick sale (in a good market), pay your agent, and still make some money for finding the deal. This works pretty well here in Canada because we have very low seller costs. In the US you're probably going to want to get the property at more like 20% below to pay all those crazy fees.

Thanks Doug. I'll look into whole tailing. I'm guessing no option involved, just a contract. I think I was trying to avoid the DF regulations by getting the option to resell. I'll look into it. But as a seller, seems if an investor could convince me to sell at 80% FMV so I then could hire a realtor to resell it, what would the point be of the investor other than that if a leech, so I'd just say 'thanks for the idea but no thanks' and find my own realtor. The straight option definitively seems like a solution squeezed between two better ones -where a problem exists. But if neither exist then maybe the seller IS better off getting a realtor. So basically you're saying don't pay a seller so you be their realtor as you could lose that. I get ya. Probably why you don't see much on straight options, in here at least. I DID read a book on them, that Jussier(or something) buy but i believe his emphasis was on commercial. Thanks...

Originally posted by @Angel Dejesus:

hope it's all well in the cape. Hit me up I'm about to do the same. Also traveling to Florida. Let's talk shop

 Thanks. Yes, we're doing okay here. We got lucky but a lot of us, most of us lost power and can't find it how long it will take to restore power it seems so far using the elec. co. resources but I guess that means they're all too busy fixing things. Coming to FL? SWFL? Cape Coral specifically? 

Originally posted by @Cody Campbell:

Buying in cash does expedite things, I have purchased several properties with cash, no home inspection (you need some clue at what your looking at and what the property needs), no appraisal (only the banks require appraisals), and closing  within 10 days. 

This can motivate the seller to sell quick and at a lower price. 

The moment I closed on the property I turned to a local bank and told them I want to Refi the property, on paper you own the property outright. The bank orders an appraisal (you are hoping it appraises for higher than you bought so you can pull your money back out and then some to rehab) and you can instantly refi or you can negotiate a construction loan (interest only) for the property and they will appraise the property as you have already done the upgrades/rehab to it. 

I love this method and has worked for me here in Kentucky and Tennessee.

Feel free to contact me for more info. 

 Thanks much. That's good to hear. 

... is it worth? That pretty much sums it up. The corner mart connects a residential to 35mph industrial street. Trulia shows cold for crime whatever that means. It's definitely D area. Not D-. Myself IDQK. I might like to grab a six pack and pack of smokes just cuz it's so darn 'convenient'. I might also like that there are a lot of people around who fear God is watching or I'd probably prefer the woods but I got a cheap house in a better area that I can afford.  Or is this a 'pass'? Or only a flip it for the right $? I'm thinking that 50k asking needs to drop about 30. Needs another 30. 900+sf. Comps $100/sf. Feelings? 

Originally posted by @J Scott:

It would depend on the lender.  You should talk to the lender(s) you're considering using and ask them what their policy is for refinancing a cash purchase.

 Thanks. Will do

I want to buy cash first to simplify and expedite a purchase then take out a loan if need be for rehab(depending on final agreed price & rehab). The idea doesn't sound like it would be anything different from a lender's perspective but I've not read about people doing this other than the standard refinance which is normally done with conventional lenders, so maybe with hard/private it could be different(?). I don't see why not, but you tell me. It seems to me in expediting the purchase, also you'd give yourself an advantage over other offers that might need a few days for appraisals and what not.

once a seller asked me, in other words, 'so what do ya want? I got all kinds of properties, wutcha want?' and I remember fumbling through my mental script but now I'm thinking I should have told him what my heart felt which was 'Well I want them ALL MUWAHAHA....' and then another time a seller had a pretty good package deal on three of his tenant filled homes which I expressed interest but ultimately gave up after failing to sell him in any seller financing. So I'm wondering if purchasing straight options from these sellers, say for 10% of the purchase price, then resell the individual options would be a good strategy. I don't see why not but I haven't read much about straight options.

Post: Contract

Benjamin CowlesPosted
  • Cape Coral, FL
  • Posts 469
  • Votes 32

Thanks

This is in Lee County SWFL(Cape Coral, Fort Myers). I'm trying to keep track of properties I look at to see what they ultimately sell for and just wanted to know what kind of possible delay in the last update I should take into account when checking. Thanks

Post: Recommendation Investor friendly Title Company

Benjamin CowlesPosted
  • Cape Coral, FL
  • Posts 469
  • Votes 32

Who did you find in Fort Myers?