Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Josh Oaten

Josh Oaten has started 30 posts and replied 257 times.

Post: What happens next in the economy - Change My Mind!

Josh OatenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 143

What happens next in the economy…

- The Fed will loose control of inflation, as they never really had control of it.

- Corporate debt service default will increase in droves, starting with pensions and retirement funds.

- The Fed will cause a major debt spiral accelerated by bond buy backs it can not afford to do, in-tern being forced to let inflation take its course much higher.

- Lending will become extremely tight in real estate, with only those who have strong relationships and track records having access to debt.

- Multifamily rental properties purchased right with lower rent expectations will prosper, as a larger population will be forced to become life time renters.

- Investors poised correctly will prosper, as opportunities will be in abundance from those who bought wrong within the past 2 years. Especially those who run their business on the 6 month flip model.


Change my mind….

Post: Real Estate CPA Recommendation

Josh OatenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 143

Hi all,

I would love any recommendations for personal real estate or real estate minded CPAs out here in Phoenix.

Thanks,

Josh Oaten

Post: How Are You Adapting To Increased Rents

Josh OatenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 143

I’m happy to announce we just closed our 2nd deal within the last 6 months at RSN Property Group - 281 units in Greenville, SC 🌳

We are now seeing rates shifting within the last month above 6% and knocking on the door of 7%. Are you still finding deals that pencil at these rates, or are you starting to see/waiting to see a shift in pricing in your target markets?

Thanks,

Josh Oaten

RSN Property Group

Post: What to ask a broker

Josh OatenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 143
Quote from @Daniil Kalyuzhny:

Hi - I have a few single family homes that have done well and am looking to invest in a large multi family (minimum 10-20 apartments). Max price is probably around $4M (unless seller wants to agree to a small portion of seller financing) and I've narrowed it down to Columbus Ohio for my initial market research. When setting up calls with brokers - what are some potential imperative questions to ask? I have the following: 1) average cap rates in the space, 2) population growth 3) Job growth 4) what areas are the "tough areas" 5) any specific nuances to this market (i,e, any unique taxes) 6) who are the best property managers?

Thank you in advance for the help!

Daniil,

These are questions you should know. If you are using these questions to test a brokers knowledge then sure, but not as your source of information gathering. A brokers job is to sell, and if you don’t know the answers to those questions yourself you will get sold on a **** deal. 

In my opinion, you should have a criteria of what you want and where you want based off your own market knowledge. Eg
- $500k to $4MM purchase price
- 10-20 units
- 70s to 90s vintage
- Value add with $150 to $250 below market rents
- B class location or in A, B and C locations

Show them you know what you are talking about and don’t be afraid to call bs and say no. Stick to your criteria.

It will take you 3-6 months of talking with the same broker to actually get one that makes sense to you and your criteria.

Just my opinion, hope it helps.

Post: Will you rent to this tenant?

Josh OatenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 143
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

Sure, put them on a month to month lease 

Eliott,

Even if renting month to month and there are issues, you will still have the same legal head ache and costs of removing the tenant if there were on a 12 month lease. You would probably end up paying more in legal, turn costs and remarketing than you would to have it vacant another month and wait for a better tenant. 

Post: Will you rent to this tenant?

Josh OatenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 143
Quote from @Jacob Beg:

Hi All- The tenant was evicted in 2018, she says she fell I’ll buy repaid the arrears. I will be confirm that. 

For past three years, she is staying with relatives. He credit score is marginal. 

She has social sec income of 2200 per month and VA disability income of 5100 per month.

Willing to pay one years rent up front. Monthly rent is 1950 per month. 

My rent is about 200 higher than the market but it’s been updated/rehabbed. 

Any thoughts? 

Jacob,

It depends on your rental criteria and who you have and haven’t accepted in the past. You have to be consistent with this process or you will have issues.

As an example, a criteria may consist of:
Applicant must
- Make 3X rent rate in terms of gross income, verifiable through their 3 most recent pay stubs, most recent tax returns, award letter or employment letter (on company letter head)
- 6 months positive verifiable rental history
- Evictions in the past 5 years are automatic denial
- You set a credit score they must be above
- You set your criminal record tolerance. 

In this case from the information provided, the applicant would not qualify based on income, credit or rental history.

Hope this helps.

Post: Landlord returns from overseas, tenant will not leave

Josh OatenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 143
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

When I see headlines like this, I suspect three things:

1. The landlord has been generous and made accommodations;

2. The tenant has been paying below market rents;

3. The tenant is completely ungrateful.

The article does not disappoint.

https://www.ladbible.com/news/family-homeless-tenant-refuse-leave-20220821

Nathan,

Not sure on the laws in the UK, but happens a lot more than people think over here in the US. Squatters Rights are a big deal, and is why good property management is a must for proper process in these cases.

Post: Off Market Deal Sourcing Strategies

Josh OatenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 143
Quote from @Wale Lawal:

@Josh Oaten

Finding off-market commercial real estate deals is not fundamentally different from sourcing listed deals, but there are a few tactics you can follow to find more opportunities. Generally, investors must be diligent in their outreach and communications, keeping their ears to the ground for deals that fit their profile.

1. Build Strong Broker Relationships

Buyers can find off-market commercial real estate deals and avoid commissions altogether when the right listings pop up organically, but brokers can also be a strong source of unlisted deals. Due to their expansive transactional networks, brokers are constantly in touch with owners seeking to sell, as well as other brokers. Beyond relationships, a broker’s extensive digital tool set can also pinpoint opportunities that are not formally listed.

As your firm continues to grow and transact in the market, the relationships you forge can carry significant value. Proving that your firm is not only positioned for growth, but prepared to execute, can go a long way. Brokers are incentivized by sales, meaning they will work diligently to find properties for interested buyers.

2. Forge Strong Industry Relationships

Beyond brokers, other industry relationships can also play a meaningful role in sourcing off-market deals. From contacts at other firms, to contractors, title companies, property managers, and legal or environmental teams that might work with sellers, staying in touch can prove beneficial.

3. Property Websites & Area Building Databases

By definition, they won’t be publicly listed on the most popular listing services, but it’s possible to find off-market commercial real estate deals on other listing websites like Zillow. Even if properties are not designated as “for sale”, these databases might hold the most recent sale date, price, square footage, and other essential details. While not necessarily a scalable tactic for institutional investors, this is another way to find commercial real estate deals off-market.

4. Contacting Owners Directly

It’s not uncommon for real estate investors to notice appealing buildings, reach out to owners and make an offer. Depending on the markets you’re investing in, this may or may not be a viable strategy. Because this approach hinges on another’s approval, it might be more effective for owner/operators than institutional investors, who tend to be more calculated and systematic in their timing. Some owners might entertain the idea, but it’s also important to note that not all owners are in the market to sell, making rejections relatively likely.

5. Direct Mail

Unlike online research and cold calling, sending direct mail to properties owners whose buildings meet your criteria can cast a wider net. For this reason, direct mail is the most scalable of these three outreach strategies. Because marketing companies can shoulder the burden of printing and distributing these mail pieces, the hard work lies in building targeted lists.

All the best!

Wale,

Thank you for your insight and tips!!

Post: Off Market Deal Sourcing Strategies

Josh OatenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 143
Quote from @Colby Fryar:

@Josh Oaten  I think it can be effective, but typically the owners of larger properties are more than likely going to use brokers.  I have used mailers and cold calling but to date have really only had a semblance of success on smaller multi- 20 units and less.  For larger multi (50 plus doors) I would recommend going through brokers, but I hope you prove me wrong!  Good luck.

Colby,
Thank you for your insight. How is your traction going in Tucson. Is the market getting difficult as Phoenix is?

Post: Off Market Deal Sourcing Strategies

Josh OatenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 143
Quote from @Ronald Rohde:

We make a list of every industrial property that fits our criteria. Then skip trace, mailers, flyers, phone calls, texts, and emails get the deal done.

Ronald,
Is there a method out of these you find works best?