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All Forum Posts by: Joe Kling

Joe Kling has started 12 posts and replied 91 times.

Originally posted by @Jonna Weber:

Complacency, and ignoring of details.  It takes resolve to stay on top of things daily, and to do the little things to stay on top of tenants, maintenence, and cash flow.   As with every real estate owner,  little issues can easily creep into big issues if unchecked and ignored.  As an agent, I frequently work with landlords that want to sell because they have let too much go unchecked for too long, and they give up when they see how their property, and quality of tenants, have deteriorated.  It keeps me on my toes with my own investments...I don't ever want to be in the same boat.  

 That's a good point Jonna. Perhaps I'll begin working the eviction filings in my marketing plan. 

Post: Advice

Joe KlingPosted
  • La Puente, CA
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 49
Originally posted by @Sanjay Patel:

Hello,

I have been lending to local small companies who rehab and flip houses.

I wanted to know if there are any resources or advice on how to vet deals,and how to structure them?  I realize every deal is different.

I've also run across several different scenarios and would like your opinion:

1. lending to a small lending company where they handle all interactions with the rehabber and I do not get a deed of trust and monthly interest

2. lending to another smaller company (again they handle the entire rehab), I do get deed of trust, higher interest, but interest is paid out at the sale of the house

3. a local private placement fund (lowest interest of the 3).

In cases 1-2, I get to see the property, case 3 not so much. These are generally 9-12 mo deals.

I have good relationships with the above and successfully participated in a few of these deals, so I haven't learned much about what could go wrong.

How do you gauge risk of the above scenerios? How important is it to actually touch and look at the property you are investing in? Should I be speaking with the actual company doing the rehabbing? what are the risks in these scenarios?  

Many thanks for your advice.

Sanjay

 Hi Sanjay

The deal is important so you should know the property and the financial profile of the deal. That being said, you want to get to know the business minds behind the deals. A bad rehabber can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Knowing the company you're lending to has the right plan and the ability to execute will ensure your success. 

If I were you, I'd read J Scotts book and then interview them about their methods and process in regards to creating a scope of work, estimating costs, and managing the execution of the flip. 

What do you think the greatest risk to the profitability and/or solvency of your real estate business is today? 

Originally posted by @Tyler W.:

Please help clear my mind from my skewed point of view of how REI works.

My goal is to buy a multiplex apartment building and live in one of the units. 

So I'm guessing that I'd have to put something like $50,000 down for that. That might take me 3 to 5 years to save. So I got the property, and I'm cash flowing a few hundred dollars a month. That's it?!? All that hard work for a few hundred dollars of "free" money? 

How do people make millions of dollars in passive income? Either they have to come from a family with money to bring big down payments to the table, or they have to save and save and live like a hobo for 30 years to build up enough cash flow. 

Convince me otherwise. I probably sound really stupid to a lot of you, but this is the beginner's forum, after all. 

 Hey Tyler

IMHO one of the strongest strategies in REI is called BRRR. I believe @brandon Turner coined the term but the strategy is to buy a discounted property that needs some work. Then do the work. Then rent it (hopefully at higher rents due to your rehab work). Finally refinance it (based on the higher appraisal value) to get your original down payment back. If done correctly you have a property that cash flows (even if it's slightly) and you have all of your money out of the property. Now, over time you're getting cash every month AND the renter is paying off your mortgage so you're building massive equity. Since ask of your money is out of the original property you can repeat over and over with that original down payment.

Post: Interviewing a contractor

Joe KlingPosted
  • La Puente, CA
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 49

Hey Wayne.  I totally forgot to thank you for this. I used quite a few of your questions. Thanks so much

Denis,

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.  Can you ask a specific question?

BTW, welcome to BP!

Post: Looking for buyers

Joe KlingPosted
  • La Puente, CA
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 49

do you have anything in California? 

@GioVanni Gibbs

Post: We have inventory from 500k to 70MM

Joe KlingPosted
  • La Puente, CA
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 49

Hi Richard

Do you have any properties in the San Gabriel Valley in socal? Please private message me

Originally posted by @Brandon Sturgill:

@Joe Kling You are simply rationalizing, man. Why is a licensed wholesaler not a designation...unaware of another industry that uses unregulated wholesalers....

 You can wholesale consumer products without a special license as long as you pay all appropriate taxes and duties. 

Originally posted by @James DeRoest:
Originally posted by @Dev Horn:

But seriously if you think it's wholesalers driving prices up, I disagree.  

Ok, look at it the other way round then.

Are wholesalers driving the prices down? Of course they aren't. They add a mark up to reassign. Therefore, by definition they are (helping) driving the market up.

 In any business there are many steps a product or service goes through before the end consumer buys it. For some rehabbers the wholesaler is a valuable link in their value creation model. For others it is not. If wholesalers never add any value and only drive the price up then their business model fails and they cease to exist.