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All Forum Posts by: Jon Shoop

Jon Shoop has started 1 posts and replied 103 times.

Post: How to interview a management company

Jon ShoopPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 109
  • Votes 79

If I were looking for a good property management company this is what I would do:

Start with word of mouth of a trusted real estate broker. Then search Google rankings. From there, I would pick a few and compare prices and all that. If they seem equal or close enough, then reach out to them. 

THIS is where it gets interesting. See who is the first to reach back out to you if you submit a request through their website. If it is during normal operating hours they should reach out to you within 60 minutes. Our time is under 5 minutes during normal hours. 

If they aren't reaching out to prospective buyers quickly, how long are maintenance issues going untouched? Rent uncollected? 

  • Questions to ask about the organization: 

    Is it just a one or two man operation, a single manager and everything else remote? Or is it a team of people with dedicated and separate job duties and responsibilities and run like a normal operating business?
  • How many properties do they manage?
  • How long has their company been in business?
  • How do they conduct maintenance? Staff on hand, Third party, Handyman, They do it themselves?
  • Do they inspect the property to check on it?
  • How far is the next home they manage from your property? 
  • What's their procedure if a tenant reports their HVAC breaking during an emergent time such as temperatures below 30 degrees and above 95 degrees?

Post: House Hacking Dallas Texas

Jon ShoopPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 109
  • Votes 79

@Bruce Lynn and @Ryan Kelly are on the money. One of my client's homes has a decent sized swimming pool. I just got quotes for pool services from a dozen companies around Keller and DFW and they're all $150-200/month for cleaning services. 

Tenants aren't going to take care of a pool - and you don't want them to! Too much that can break. I think it only makes sense if the overall deal makes sense. I don't think a pool should be a deal break or maker. Since this is an investment for you, I think lean towards deal breaker than maker. Here's why:

There's pros and cons of each scenario when it comes to having tenants in there. 

Having a pool Pros:

You have a POOL while you live there.

Attractive to tenants who want it. 

Cons: 

Expensive to maintain - can push tenants away who don't have the extra money and you certainly don't want pool cleaning coming out of your monthly rent. 

Liability - HUGE liability. Write off anyone who has young kids or pets who could drown unless you have a legit pool fence around it and even then... liability.


As much as I LOVE pools, I think the liability and maintenance costs outweigh the marketability of a home with a pool for an investment scenario. 

Post: Turnkey Companies and House Hacking

Jon ShoopPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 109
  • Votes 79

That's very interesting. I have a client that came to us from a similar type of builder/management company in DFW. They built him some duplexes and then managed the properties for him. We now manage the properties due to a little falling out our client had with that company. 

Couldn't have been too bad of a deal for my client because he's very smart and on  top of things. BUT then he was kind of married to their property management services and that wasn't good for him. 

So to answer your question, I wish I could give a definitive answer. I think most companies are going to be different. But most likely they're not going to be excited if you're wanting to manage it on your own. Whether that kills the deal or not, just depends on the company.

I will say that my company is starting to do these in addition to all the flips and renovations we do for our current owner portfolio. 

Post: DFW Single Family Property HouseHack - Taxes and Growth

Jon ShoopPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 109
  • Votes 79

Here is a Website for Prop Tax % It's for all of Texas so it'll give you what you want. You just may need to search around for the cities you're within range of. There's more results on Google but I liked how this give more of a breakdown for Dallas, Fort Worth, and DFW.

Post: How to find the market rate for my home??

Jon ShoopPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 109
  • Votes 79
Originally posted by @Gustavo Juarez:

Hello all, I would like to move my family to a new house and rent out our current home.  I don't see similar houses for rent in my area when I browse zillow, craigslist, etc. The houses I see are not very close and are in a better area so I do not want to assume I can charge the same.

How can I go about finding the market rate I can expect to charge for my home? Can I call a prop management company and just ask?

Yes. We run rental analysis reports for homeowners that are interested in renting out their homes and want PM services in DFW, Dallas, Fort Worth, and North Texas. 


We even have an APP for it for owners and realtors in Texas!  

Post: Any meetups in DFW area?

Jon ShoopPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 109
  • Votes 79

Hey Nick! Welcome to DFW! I'm in @Hayden Harrington FB meetup group and will also be making it to some meet ups. I look forward to hopefully working with y'all!

Post: Bad Property Managment

Jon ShoopPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 109
  • Votes 79

Hi @Arta Montero! As the other poster's have said, it may be time to cut ties with your PM. In no way, shape, or form, would I feel comfortable or honest with myself if I sent over a maintenance tech to unplug a shower tub drain and charged one of my client's $500 to do so. 


As @Joseph Firmin said, those don't sound like maintenance issues - stoves get dirty after being used, tubs not draining after a female using them, and preference for length of blinds are all not "maintenance" issues. They are all things that the tenant has been responsible for causing. At the very least if the tenant was going to complain about those types of things, the tenant should have been responsible for the cost of "maintenance" calls since they are not in fact maintenance issues like a broken water pipe or dishwasher. 

This sounds like a huge mess and I'm sorry your PM has put you in it. 

First things first: I would speak with your PM and discuss with them how displeased you are with them. Then I would clarify with them what maintenance issues are tenant related and should be charged to the tenant or for the PM to troubleshoot with them over the phone to fix the issue. 

Depending on how that conversation goes, you will know what you need to do with either keeping or firing them. If it's $1,000 to get out of the contract with them vs. spending thousands more on BS maintenance issues, I think you know what do to. 

In my market, DFW, Dallas, Fort Worth, & North Texas - my company strives in situations like these, which is why I like how stringent our tenant application process is - we get great tenants in for our clients. We do month to month agreements with property owners and we do our best to minimize their out of pocket costs... why? Because we want them to buy more properties and increase their success and they're happy with us so we get to manage their next consecutive properties! Just like you were/are doing with wanting to buy more, we want the same for our clients. 

I hope this helped! 

Post: East Dallas area for investment

Jon ShoopPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 109
  • Votes 79
Originally posted by @Jon L.:

@Jon Shoop

I totally agree- If you're interested in investing in Dallas, having a local team in place can be one of the most important factors in making sure your rental property is profitable.

Having worked with @steverozenberg, Bigger Pockets contributor, professional real estate investor, and Head of Investment Education at Mynd Management, I've learned that not having a local team can be one of the biggest drains on investors return on investment in the Dallas area.

 If anyone's interested in tips on sourcing a local team in Dallas I'm happy to tell you more.

 Yes this is all very true regarding having a Local Team. 

If you'd like a firm that is dedicated to all of DFW and North Texas with fourteen (14) in-house full-time PM team members based out of their Keller office, look no further than @Kyle Mccaw 

Post: Help on finding my second property

Jon ShoopPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 109
  • Votes 79
Originally posted by @Saul Clavijo:

@Jon Shoop

Do you prefer SFH to MFH? I'm looking at MFH but the price range seems to put me in a "bad area" of town and most need a lot of work. While most SFH I'm looking at are in better areas and don't require a lot of work, the cash flow doesn't seem to be as much.

 For investments, I think Duplexes and other multiplexes are where it's at. The nice thing about DFW, Dallas, Fort Worth, is that you can find some nice streets/neighborhoods that have decent to nice MFHs. 

For SFH I would probably look at starting with a rehab job to get closer to the price range and cash flow that you'd want.

Post: East Dallas area for investment

Jon ShoopPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 109
  • Votes 79
Originally posted by @Louis Jeffries:

@Rik Chatterjee

The key to Multifamily Investing is the property and the property management. Whether in town or out of town the property should be in a stable - desirable area, without a lot of crime and good numbers plus good property management. The Management make the deal and their insight is very important. I would find a good property manager first.

 This 100%! With a good property manager teamed with a reliable realtor, you can get the insight you are looking for and have two parties with vested interest in your success. At the end of the day, RE is all about connections and growth. For a good property management company, they want their clients to be making money off their investment properties so they can continue to buy them and the PM can continue to manage them! Win for the owner building their portfolio, win for the realtor who should have their clients pushed back to referral partners (the agent who referred them) to use for the transactions, and PM manages the properties. Everyone wins in this scenario.