All Forum Posts by: Jerryll Noorden

I’m not going to get into a back-and-forth here. Everything I mentioned above is accurate and based on real results, not just opinions. I didn’t respond to your negative post to win an argument—I replied to encourage him and others not to give up on a dream just because one person may feel it’s not achievable.

Listen, have you ever considered that maybe you and even a few others may be wrong? The reason I do what I do showing proof is because it inspires others making them realize the dream is within reach. I try to inspire.

I get a TON of these personal messages:

Frankly, the way you’ve turned his question and plea for help into a personal attack with accusations about me “selling services” is beyond me.

:) Wishing you a wonderful Sunday, Mr. Green!

FIRST: No one is attacking you. This is a forum, and people are entitled to have different opinions. You seem overly aggressive here.

SECOND: You might want to tone down the aggression a bit. Calling respected contributors with significant experience in wholesaling “ridiculous” doesn’t add to the discussion. I genuinely asked why you think not being born in the market you invest in would have any impact on success.

THIRD: I didn’t realize your advice not to pursue it was because of his age. That’s why I asked—it seemed unusual to discourage him from NYC investment without further explanation.

FOURTH: Now that I understand your perspective, I still respectfully disagree. Why? Because I have a 22-year-old student in NYC who’s succeeding at this.

And I have another student who made a $700K assignment fee in Beverly Hills, California.

Can you imagine if Myles, came to you for advise BEFORE he came to me? That would have cost him $700K. Never EVER do this again!

Mr. Green, we’ve had this conversation before. You’ve accused me of selling a “pipe dream,” but it seems like you’re projecting your own limitations onto others. Just because something may be difficult for you doesn’t mean it’s impossible for someone else.

All we can do is share our experiences and insights. You told him not to pursue this, but you didn’t provide a solid reason why. It’s more helpful to offer information rather than discourage someone from exploring their own path.

FIFTH: I appreciate that you want to look out for others, but encouraging education rather than discouragement is more constructive. Sharing the potential challenges he might face, rather than discouraging him, allows him to assess whether he’s ready to tackle them, increasing his chance of success.

We’re all here to help each other grow, right?

Sixth: It seems you may not realize that I’m a recognized expert in credibility and conversion strategies. I teach how to establish credibility through my concept, The 3 Pillars of Conversion, which I’ve developed to help clients succeed regardless of location or age—as long as they target the right audience.

Lastly: You’ve accused me of “selling SEO.” But where? How? All I’m doing is educating and sharing my methods, for free. Sharing how I get free leads and explaining the process openly is about teaching, not selling.

 What makes him not having grown up in NYC not having a chance?

Don't quite understand what you mean.

Wholesaling has nothing to do with where you grew up.

Wholesaling (as well as any other business) is about lead generation.

I didn't grow up in NYC, and if I were to wholesale there I would dominate that market with my ability to rank websites #1, dominate online presence, credibility, and competence strategies I can apply to my online image.

I think this is why so many people are "afraid" of wholesaling.

Break wholesaling down into its most basic elements. All you need are leads, motivated seller leads. Once you do, you will find eager buyers, and that is "all" it takes.

Of course, I simplified it (a little), but that is basically the gist of it.

If you need to do Skip Tracing, mailers, and "Propstream", you don't understand the concept of motivated sellers, and that is why so many of you struggle.

If you do not understand the concept of motivated sellers, how do you expect to be successful in finding them.

I recommend you read my post here:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/93/topics/1215116-all-i...

What do you call a "lead"?

Very curious!

Worth it? Probably not (when you consider how much it will cost). Is it a good idea? sure, why not? It probably can't do any harm.

The reason I say probably not worth it, is because you can talk to your local wholesalers, local REIA, local real estate agent/broker, who is also an investor, you can ask ChatGPT, etc. etc. you can find all your answers there.

So for the price they will charge you, meh I don't think it is worth it, but yeah it can be a good idea.

 Exactly.

What is the point of being on a wholesaling forum where the entire point is to advocate wholesaling, to further it, and then learn to collaborate when they jump on the first opportunity to constantly bash it?

And then to make this a sticky. Just pointless. 

 Please dude, no need call me sir.

So if I am understanding you correctly, you are not an investor yourself, you are working for other investors?

I don't buy from wholesalers, so I never had to ask anyone any questions, but if I WERE to buy from a wholesaler (eewww, do you know who you are talking to? Do you??), I would ask...

"Does the seller know you are wholesaling this property?"

If the answer is yes,  keep this wholesaler on your list. Chances are you have someone with honor transparency and integrity on your hands and that is very rare.

If the answer is no... well, if he lied to the homeowner, why would you think he would not lie to you?

But I am a weirdo, don't listen to me! :)

Yes, absolutely.

Imagine it is valentines day. You are looking for a rose for your loved one. Rose needs to be red. So you go to flower shop after flower shop to find roses. But you need a red one! Not a white one, not yellow and not pink. You need red.

So more and more do you scan the flowers and you mind now conditions you to anything red. If it is not red, you are not interested. Sooner than later you forget why you are looking for red and soon you will start to ONLY look for red. Red daisies, red sunflowers, red cars... you completely lost the point that it needed to be a rose.

This is what is happening here. Not because a motivated seller COULD possibly have a property in distress does this imply that all or even most properties in distress belong to a motivated seller.

Most do not!

So consider this next. You ask me for tips  on properties that aren't going to be on everyone's list.

My friend, listen to me carefully.  IF a property is on a list there is 90%+ probability it doesn't belong to a motivated seller. Why?

Because nothing can target motivated sellers. Simply can't.

Everyone thinks that a circumstance (like being in foreclosure, tx liens, or .. ahum... distressed property) implies motivation. Tat is very wrong. Motivation is an emotional response to a circumstance, not the circumstance itself.

Although the sensible solution to the circumstance of being in foreclosure let's say, is to sell their house, the reality is that the emotional response to being in such a situation is to find ways to keep their house, not sell it.

So ibn order to find motivated SELLERS, you need to first understand what a motivated seller is.

A motivated seller is not someone that wants to needs to or even has to sell their house. A motivated seller is anyone willing to sell their house below market value. The reasons why do not matter.

How do you target someone, anyone who is willing to sell below market value? Can't. You can't predict how someone will react to any circumstance.

Let me ask you this:

Where would you go if you were a hungry lion in the savannas of Africa to find food?

You’d stalk the watering hole.

I don’t care who you are; your *** will beat that watering hole at some point TODAY.

Now, keep that thought.

Let's talk about lists: the foreclosure list, absentee owners list probate list…

What is a list anyway?

A list is a filtering mechanism.

If you’re motivated, get on my list.
If you’re not motivated, get off my list.

Good.
If you need to send 3000 mailers, calls, and texts to land one deal, you’re working with a 0.03% success rate. That’s a 99.97% failure rate. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to realize the people on that list aren’t interested in selling. Wrong audience.

Here’s the good news.

Just like a lion doesn’t need to know where the prey is hiding—only where they’ll eventually show up—smart investors don’t need to guess who’s motivated. They simply need to know where sellers will be when they BECOME motivated

Google!

Want a reliable source of motivated sellers?

you have to make sure THEY will find YOU!

Get a website, rank it #1, make sure it converts.

How exactly?

I will write a book if I continue so if there is interest, just ask here and I will give you some pointers. Ignore that I sell SEO services, on BP I am offering everything I can for free.