All Forum Posts by: Gerald David

Amie D. Yes, my guys will not have to reset the toilet only when using this type of product.

And as for prep, say a tenant takes a knife and cuts the vinyl all up, the installer just has to peel the product off the floor and it's ready to lay new again. If it was a standard vinyl product, the area would have to be embossed before it's ready for install.

As I am not from Belleview, I don't know your area. But from a quick search on Google, I see you have a Carpet One store. The IVC product there is called Earthscapes. The other stores will have it as Flexitec. Both are made at the same mill, but Earthscapes and Flexitec have different patterns.

Amie D. the IVC product can be floated as well. In a bathroom, I don't think it would be a problem as people don't usually slide chairs in bathrooms. If it were in a kitchen, I would apply the pressure sensitive adhesive as kitchens get far more abuse than any bathroom.

I do know Mannington and Congoleum also sell these types of vinyl, but their pricing tends to be higher and you are not getting any better performance for the price.

Amie D. you might try a product by IVC called Flexitec. You will have extra as it's 13' 2" wide, but you could always roll up the extra and store for the next repair/install.

The advantages of this vinyl: it uses a pressure sensitive adhesive. No permanent glue required, and it does not require underlayment to be used underneath it. Also, once you reset the toilet, the installer will just cut around the toilet and seam up behind the toilet.

If and when it needs to be replaced, the vinyl should come up easily, and you will not have to pull the toilet (provided the toilet is not leaking) to install the new vinyl. Instead of getting a true vinyl installer on the job, you could hire a handyman who could even use the previous vinyl as a template for the new piece.

Not having to pull and reset toilets and tearout that should take all of 5 minutes should save you $100 per bathroom at least!

You should find this product at your local Color Tile or other neighborhood flooring store.

Derek Petersen go to your flooring store and look for some vinyl from a company called IVC. It's a fiberglass-backed vinyl that uses a pressure sensitive adhesive. It may cost more at the beginning, but this vinyl can withstand a lot. Keep the scraps and know if your future tenants tear the vinyl, YOU could quickly do the repair!

The only bad thing is this vinyl is 13' 2" wide. This stuff really kicks butt and it's saving lots of people $$ with down the road repairs especially in baths where toilets normally need to be R&R'd during a vinyl replacement.

Good luck!

George P. I hate carpet as well. But, a few things to know:

First, I've noticed that most landlords buy carpet that is light brown in color. When they do this, it doesn't matter what the carpet was made of as it will darken due to normal wear and tear. I've seen black areas near furniture and wondered "why is it dark there"? I later find that the tenant had a black lab or something and that's the place the dog liked to lay down. Dogs have oils that secrete onto anything the animal comes in contact with. People's bare feet do the exact same thing!

Unless you're going to go with a hard surface of some kind, any carpet will show wear and tear unless you are ready to either spend some $$ on a great, quality carpet (a Triexta fiber carpet for instance) that has superior stain resistance qualities (not stain proof), or go with the nasty, cheap sculpted carpet that you see in low end rentals all day long. You will never see stains in this carpet, but the yarn will wear out quickly.

If the carpeted areas do NOT have to all be the same carpet, look for rems. I have put high end Karastan carpets in rooms that didn't cost me very much at all.

Your best deals will not be at Lowe's or HD, but your neighborhood flooring store. If you make friends with a salesperson, he/she can alert you when a rem becomes available and you can be ahead of the game!

Good luck!

Thanks people for your responses. Yes Tom Goans, I am a wholesaler. For RIGHT now, I'm not looking at any new buy and hold properties.

But all this information has helped answer my questions. I will call all these leads back. I'll ask for more information on any mobiles On property and see what might be possible. As for mobiles in parks, I'll leave those alone for now.

Tom Goans thanks for replying!! I appreciate the knowledge regarding ownership of mobile homes in parks!!

I may not have accurately asked my questions in my first post, so let me try again.

I have leads coming in (bandit signs/Craigslist) that are associated with mobile homes. I am NOT actively marketing to these people.

What I want to know is what other people do with these leads when they come into your system. Do you treat mobile homes on land the same as you would a normal property vs in a park? Is there a way to make some $$ wholesaling or lease optioning these properties?? Is it worth my time to work with these kinds of leads??

As I type this email, the only intention I have for mobile homes is if it's possible to wholesale or lease optioning them. If these exit models are much harder to pursue due to the fact that the subject property being a mobile, then perhaps it IS better to disregard these leads.

Your thoughts?? Thanks!!!

I am receiving calls from my bandit signs that are from persons who own mobile homes...either in a park or on property who want to sell.

I am wondering what other wholesalers/investors are doing with these leads? How do you evaluate these leads? Exit strategies?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated! Thanks!!

Amie D. I truly believe an experienced commercial floor installer would be your best council for this problem. Visit your local commercial flooring company (NOT Lowes or HD) and ask for their most experienced flooring installer. I guarantee he/she has experienced every possible floor situation out there and could give you multiple ways to fix the floor in question.

Good luck!

I'm going to do my bestest (new word) to make this event! I look forward to it. Thanks Brandon!