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All Forum Posts by: Mark Ferguson

Mark Ferguson has started 247 posts and replied 2799 times.

Post: Real Estate history set to repeat itself

Mark FergusonPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Greeley, CO
  • Posts 2,879
  • Votes 1,353
Originally posted by @Ben Zimmerman:

So according to you, the primary cause of the crash was relaxed lending requirements by banks, and now even though that primary cause no longer exists, you think there is going to be a crash because a lot of people are interested in real estate?  That doesn't even make sense.

People are naturally attracted to whatever makes money.  If the stock market were to see annual gains of 20%+ for a few years then a large number of people would stop being Saturday afternoon landlords and start being 'stock gurus'. 

The only thing that can cause an actual housing market crash, is for people to start defaulting en masse on their loans, which can happen only if the loan is unstable, or the job market is unstable.  In 2008 this happened because banks were giving anyone and everyone a loan regardless of the credit score, down payment, or income.  They gave loans to people who couldn't possibly repay those loans, especially when their adjustable rate mortgages increased.  Another scenario is if we experience another great depression, or prolonged recession.  People who were previously financially stable can become unstable if the economy sucks and they can no longer find a job. 

Having a large number of people interested in RE will certainly drive the price up, and this increase in price will create more people who want to invest, and this hype will further drive prices up.  This is what happened in 2008.  The difference is banks in 2008 kept giving ridiculous loans that they are no longer giving, which by default creates a realistic limit to how high prices can go.  We have seen prices go up by large amounts following the crash, and this increase will likely start to flatline a little bit at some point, or possibly even recede slightly, but this will not cause a crash.  So long as the underlying loan is solid, and the job market is solid, then real estate as a whole is solid.

We've seen one crash in the last XX years, and suddenly everyone becomes Nostradamus and feels the next one is right around the corner.  Will the market flatline or possibly have a market correction in the next 1-10 years?  -Possibly.  But I am worried about this about as much as I'm worried about what Kim Kardasian just posted on twitter.  A market correction doesn't scare me in the slightest because I invest correctly from day one, with built in equity and cashflow so that I can easily survive during the down years, and thrive during the up years.  I'm nowhere near close to cashing out and retiring, so I am actually hopeful for a market correction because all of my current assets will still produce, and my future purchases will be made at a discount.

I was going to say the same thing. In the OPs post he uses examples of RE investors not being able to get financing and reaching out for help. Before the crash they probably could have gotten financing because banks were so crazy, and they would not even be looking for help. The fact they are asking those questions and having trouble with financing shows the system has changed. 

The problem now is not crazy demand due to loose lending, it is low supply due to no building. I don't see a crash coming either. 

Post: I have a record 13 flips going now!

Mark FergusonPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Greeley, CO
  • Posts 2,879
  • Votes 1,353
Originally posted by @George P.:
Originally posted by @Mark Ferguson:
Originally posted by @George P.:
Originally posted by @Mark Ferguson:
Originally posted by @George P.:

That's awesome.  I can't do flips here, so I just focus on the rentals. Congratulations u are making money now...present value of money 

why can't you flip there? 

 It's a long answer... But I don't have my realtor license like u, also have a day job..  so I can't check it as often. 

I don't have time to do mailings and calls to homeowners 

I have over 50 agents in my phone yet just 1 has brought me a deal that I bought and that was in 2013. . Everyone else seems to just list, which is just super easy and lazy.  I have called 100s of agents while inquiring about their listing, not them my story and goals and never hearback. 

The wholesellers in my areas email junk deals and junk houses. 

No need to go on.  

But somehow I have 30+ wonderful properties 

 If you are going to flip it is tough to have to depend on agents for deals. 

I am interested to find out what happened to your previous project manager and how you find good contractors.  Or your dad is still in charge of that  part? 

I bought my dad out 3 years ago. He hasn't been a part of yhe business since then. My previous project manager basically did nothing even though that was his only job. We are always looking for good contractors. Word of mouth seems to be the best. 

Post: I have a record 13 flips going now!

Mark FergusonPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Greeley, CO
  • Posts 2,879
  • Votes 1,353
Originally posted by @George P.:
Originally posted by @Mark Ferguson:
Originally posted by @George P.:

That's awesome.  I can't do flips here, so I just focus on the rentals. Congratulations u are making money now...present value of money 

why can't you flip there? 

 It's a long answer... But I don't have my realtor license like u, also have a day job..  so I can't check it as often. 

I don't have time to do mailings and calls to homeowners 

I have over 50 agents in my phone yet just 1 has brought me a deal that I bought and that was in 2013. . Everyone else seems to just list, which is just super easy and lazy.  I have called 100s of agents while inquiring about their listing, not them my story and goals and never hearback. 

The wholesellers in my areas email junk deals and junk houses. 

No need to go on.  

But somehow I have 30+ wonderful properties 

 If you are going to flip it is tough to have to depend on agents for deals. 

Post: I have a record 13 flips going now!

Mark FergusonPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Greeley, CO
  • Posts 2,879
  • Votes 1,353
Originally posted by @George P.:

That's awesome.  I can't do flips here, so I just focus on the rentals. Congratulations u are making money now...present value of money 

why can't you flip there? 

Post: I have a record 13 flips going now!

Mark FergusonPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Greeley, CO
  • Posts 2,879
  • Votes 1,353
Originally posted by @Dan Cohen:

Congrats @Mark Ferguson thats awesome! Do you have any properties in the Denver market? I currently have a flip that were selling next month. Was wondering if you still felt this was a strong market to invest in or do you only invest in the Greenly area?

 I invest 45 miles away and closer just for logistics sake. I have flipped in many different market cycles and as long as there is enough profit I see no reason to stop.

Post: I have a record 13 flips going now!

Mark FergusonPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Greeley, CO
  • Posts 2,879
  • Votes 1,353
Originally posted by @Justin Young:

What tips could you give someone trying to build a team out of state? I listen to your podcast as well. You interviewed on of my friends from Hawaii and he recommended I listen to it. Great content.

 thank you, dan ueda? It's tough to invest out of state. I think you need to spend some time in the area meeting agents, pms, contractors, etc. Need a third party to watch over things as well.

Post: I have a record 13 flips going now!

Mark FergusonPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Greeley, CO
  • Posts 2,879
  • Votes 1,353
Originally posted by @Brian Adams:

@Mark Ferguson, great job. 

I used to flip 1 to 2 houses a month and now I only buy 100 to 400 unit apartment deals.

I can't imagine keeping track of 13 different flips going at the same time, impressive!!

 I am starting to look at some larger deals myself

Post: I have a record 13 flips going now!

Mark FergusonPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Greeley, CO
  • Posts 2,879
  • Votes 1,353
Originally posted by @Ben Wendt:

This is really amazing and a testament to your experience and time spent in REI. Congratulations!

thank you!

Post: I have a record 13 flips going now!

Mark FergusonPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Greeley, CO
  • Posts 2,879
  • Votes 1,353
Originally posted by @Matt M.:

How hands on are you with these projects? Do you just find them and turn them over to your team?

I find them and decide on financing. Then help decide what repairs to do and budget. Then my team works with contractors, subs, etc to get it done. I check up on everything during the entire process.

Post: I have a record 13 flips going now!

Mark FergusonPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Greeley, CO
  • Posts 2,879
  • Votes 1,353
Originally posted by @Sarah Lorenz:

Jay Hinrichs Mark Ferguson
I'm interested to hear more details about relying on primarily MLS. I also feel like there are plenty of deals on the MLS in my area, with the two categories being reasonably priced properties in poor condition that sell immediately, and then overpriced properties that sell for a lower price after sitting for a few months. I also see that a high-end renovation yields a premium price in my area, which sometimes allows initial purchases without extreme discounts. Do you find the same in your markets?

 High end renovations are limitted in my market.