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All Forum Posts by: Heather O.

Heather O. has started 13 posts and replied 90 times.

Post: Can Landlord Use Last Month's Rent towards Damages?

Heather O.Posted
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  • White Rock, British Columbia
  • Posts 99
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Originally posted by @John Thedford:

A " non refundable pet deposit" is the wrong wording and COULD force you to return it. In the future, the proper term is non-refundable pet FEE. Fees are non-refundable. Deposits may or may not be refundable. It would also be prudent to add in a fee for breaking the lease. I use 1.5x the montly rent. Exactly what your lease states, as well as the state statutes, will determine what you may or may no do. 

EXACTLY!  I call it a "fee" in all of my paperwork, he's using "deposit".    Well done!

Post: Can Landlord Use Last Month's Rent towards Damages?

Heather O.Posted
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  • White Rock, British Columbia
  • Posts 99
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Mike Cumbie:

@Heather O.

Do you have the pre walk through checklist from the previous landlord? If yes, then you can most likely make a play for the damages. If you do not have any proof to the condition of the property at move in all he has to say in court is "It was like that when I moved in" the judge will look at you and say "Do you have proof of condition at move in?" Some states can award 3 times damages so just in the security deposit you could be on the hook for $1800. So I think @JD Martin was saying let the deposit go because you can't prove the cabinets were not broken, holes were not in the walls.

As far as the last months rent and prorated etc, check local laws but there should be a time frame from when notice was given. Commonly 30 days notice has to be given before next rent due date (Not positive about Florida). So if he moved out 7 days before the end of a month he still owes for that month and the next if no notice was given. Unless you agreed to let him move out early with no penalty.

Good Luck

 Good points!  I do have the original walk through!  And all of the documents ever between the tenant and previous landlords, so I will use that to my advantage.  Incredible that I didn't even think of that!

Post: Can Landlord Use Last Month's Rent towards Damages?

Heather O.Posted
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  • White Rock, British Columbia
  • Posts 99
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Karen Young:

Usually you can add in the ORIGINAL lease_ if you leave early or break the lease 2 months is owed>>Intial here_______>.The money on the table is yours IF THEY SKIP OUT_but I doubt they will pay 2 months rent-always-so money owed goes out the window except the DEPOSIT>paid.

Good point, Karen!   You never know - we have the strangest, nonsensical things happen.

Post: Can Landlord Use Last Month's Rent towards Damages?

Heather O.Posted
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  • White Rock, British Columbia
  • Posts 99
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Becca Summers:

@Heather O. then I'd say no to refunding the prorated rent since he choose to leave when he did. If he didn't pay rent the last month that is yours to keep as well. It sounds like he knows he is a pain and wants to push you around. I don't blame you for wanting to move on and get him out of your life these renters cause more stress.

What I meant by asking if you got a deal on the house I mean did the seller sell for less than they could have just to get rid of the tenant? If so that might be some of the compensation you get for dealing with the problem renter.

 Thanks, great advice.  Lovely Sellers had every unit severely under-rented with low-quality, late paying, complaining tenants.  I rather place a high quality, low maintenance tenant, who pays top dollar on time.  I have the ability to do so (it's my talent).  

side note: Sellers gave between $50-$250 a year gift cards to each tenant annually - they were super sweet people and got walked all over by their tenants. 

Post: Can Landlord Use Last Month's Rent towards Damages?

Heather O.Posted
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  • White Rock, British Columbia
  • Posts 99
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @JD Martin:

I would cut bait and move on from here. The previous landlord apparently approved of the previous 9 years, and you purchased the place with the tenant in place and the home in the current condition, so I don't see that you'll have much legal ground to stand on anywhere. If you don't have any proof of the condition of the home before the tenant moved in, you'll be hard pressed to even hold on to the deposit for damages. 

As for keeping rent paid but unused for damages, I doubt that is legal in Florida. You would need to get a court judgement to determine if the tenant is responsible for damages beyond the deposit amount in order to collect any further money. 

 Hi JD!  What does "cut bait" mean?

Would you refund all deposits?   I don't see that as an option, I replaced the previous and don't see that I should have a lesser placement than they had, I strictly replaced them.

What do you mean "unused" ?  I am spending $10k in repairs and deferred maintenance.  He wants $2k. 

No, no one "needs a court judgement to determine if the tenant is responsible for damages beyond the deposit amount in order to collect any further money" unless the tenant contests my claim.  I am trying to determine the fair way to claim.

Post: Can Landlord Use Last Month's Rent towards Damages?

Heather O.Posted
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  • White Rock, British Columbia
  • Posts 99
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Kim Meredith Hampton:

@Heather O. First and foremost, what does your landlord tenant laws state about notice from either party? Familairize your self with these, they are life savers.

Secondly, your story sounds somewhat confusing, you gave notice to vacate, then offered a renewal. Should have been one or the other, sometimes (depending on your states laws), one can negate the other

Rent can not be used for repairs at all.

 Hi Kim! I read the related laws and I don't see this mentioned.  

You are correct, many months ago, the previous landlord offered to renew the lease.  Tenant refused.  Tenant told me he was moving.  I gave him the legal notice stating that we will not be renewing the same contract.  He went back and forth between staying and moving, then acting like he was staying (so we agreed that the rent would go up and I would make some upgrades), then he ignored me.  We found the place flooding from a pipe that seemed to be purposely broken.  He left the door unlocked and the key on the counter.

It complicated, or I would not be asking for advice. 

Post: Can Landlord Use Last Month's Rent towards Damages?

Heather O.Posted
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  • White Rock, British Columbia
  • Posts 99
  • Votes 34
Originally posted by @Becca Summers:
I would say no landlord can't use last month's rent for repairs. Did you ask them to leave before the end of the month? I wouldn't give pro rated rent back for any early days moved out. Can you show any damage was done by the animals to keep the animal deposit? With the amount of damage I wonder if you could do small claims court and try and collect that way. However where you didn't own it the whole time I doubt it. Did you get a good deal based off condition?

No, of course, I did not want him to leave mid month, that's ridiculous to consider.  We have very friendly squatter laws in Florida, I never let a house sit vacant for a night on purpose.  He abandoned the property, he says he paid the last month twice, I received no payment from him for last month, except for what was in escrow.  He's extremely difficult to deal with.  

Yes, pets caused the odor and we had to have that treated,  so gross.

I am 100% sure that he's not getting his damage deposit back, nor the non-refundable pet deposit.  Just unsure about rent.  Maybe I should refund it to save myself the hassle of seeing him again, I think that's a cop out.  

I don't know how to answer your last question.  I feel like I paid market price and I always do pay market price and I am happy to do so.

Post: Hurricane: Pain or Gain?

Heather O.Posted
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  • White Rock, British Columbia
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Interesting perspective - I like your open-mindedness to find the silver lining on the Hurricane clouds!

Post: Noooooo tenant is 10 days late on rent. What to do ???

Heather O.Posted
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  • White Rock, British Columbia
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"Originally posted by @Isiah Ferguson:

@Bernie Neyer @Matthew Olszak @Nicole A. @Paul Staszel @John Nachtigall Check out my last post guys. It's a pic of our back and fourth text. She has to go."

WHAT HAPPENED? DID YOU GET TENANT OUT?  

Post: Damage Deposit Itemization - how detailed do you get?

Heather O.Posted
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  • White Rock, British Columbia
  • Posts 99
  • Votes 34

Thanks for the discussion, battling similar issue myself.  Mixed feelings of relief that the worst tenants have left, but they are not truly out of your life until they get over not getting back their deposits.