Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 54%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$69 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Brian Garrett

Brian Garrett has started 69 posts and replied 2926 times.

Post: Preparing for my first flip!

Brian GarrettPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Palm Beach County, FL
  • Posts 3,034
  • Votes 2,020

@Ritch Bonisa I already have another thread going on it but I was just curious if you had any advice. Thank you though!

Post: BRRRR without proof of income?

Brian GarrettPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Palm Beach County, FL
  • Posts 3,034
  • Votes 2,020
Originally posted by @Isiah Ferguson:

@Brian Garrett They will give you a interest rate between 6%-8% based off your credit score. The high your credit score, the better rate you will get.

 Understood. That's good to know since I have a solid credit score. Thank you.

Post: BRRRR without proof of income?

Brian GarrettPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Palm Beach County, FL
  • Posts 3,034
  • Votes 2,020
Originally posted by @Andrew M.:

@Jeff Wallace You mentioned the importance of W-2 income, and I agree. On a related note I wanted to mention something I heard recently as it relates to self-employed individuals hoping to use the BRRR strategy. Generally self-employed people have a much harder time qualifying for financing, however someone recently mentioned the idea of structuring your business as an S-Corp and paying yourself a salary, thus W-2 income, and that this would make it easier to qualify for traditional financing even though you're still technically self-employed. Perhaps you've heard of this being done as well?

Interested in hearing responses to this. I own a few S-Corps but have never paid myself W-2 income. Regardless it won't help me now since I'm not going to wait 2 years even if I started paying myself W-2 income today but it's an interesting concept nonetheless.

Post: Investing 100k in rentals for cash flow

Brian GarrettPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Palm Beach County, FL
  • Posts 3,034
  • Votes 2,020
Originally posted by @Melissa Dorman:

Brian Garrett I never thought of it like that, but yes! It's a slow BRRR!

It doesn't have to be slow if you think about it. The strategy is really just a hybrid between a flip and a rental. You're technically buying the house on the front end at a discount with the hopes of rehabbing it to force initial appreciation and renting it (BRRRR) to eventually sell it for a profit (flip) but you can sell at any time. If the property appreciates quickly and you want to take your cash and run to the next property you can flip it and move on. If not you can rent it and generate positive cash flow until the appreciation has reached your goal. It's the best of both worlds!

Post: Why don't people put their contact information in their profile?

Brian GarrettPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Palm Beach County, FL
  • Posts 3,034
  • Votes 2,020

@Stephanie P. I'm sure everyone has their own preference. Different strokes for different folks!

Post: BRRRR without proof of income?

Brian GarrettPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Palm Beach County, FL
  • Posts 3,034
  • Votes 2,020
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

these lenders I mentioned ARE HML s they will all have points up front.. banks have points up front.. and banks have a load of junk fees

at the end of the day any bank loan you will pay 4 to 6k out the door more than you borrow call it points call it junk fees

HML will be 2 to 4 points and usually some junk fees.

Ok now this is where I just got confused. I already know about HML's as an option I was under the impression that these suggestions were better and more lucrative options to avoid having to go get hard money or private money. I guess I need to process all of this information some more and then see if I can understand it better or more clearly. Thank you nonetheless.

Post: BRRRR without proof of income?

Brian GarrettPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Palm Beach County, FL
  • Posts 3,034
  • Votes 2,020
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Brian Garrett  rental business is a business's you must look at bottom line numbers.

and each market will dictate how much you can pay for capital.

in a market like Michealas were she can buy a sub 20k house and rent it for 800 bucks.

you can pay HUGE interest rate and still make good money

If your paying 400k for a property that brings in 2500 a month then interest rate is a critical component. you need to do the math

 I understand completely.  Great advice Jay!

Post: BRRRR without proof of income?

Brian GarrettPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Palm Beach County, FL
  • Posts 3,034
  • Votes 2,020
Originally posted by @Christie Gahan:

Maybe you should work with HMLs and flip ?  This could give you a bigger pile of cash.  Or wholesaling ?  

I don't need HML's to flip. I have my own cash for that. I will definitely be doing flips as well.

Post: BRRRR without proof of income?

Brian GarrettPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Palm Beach County, FL
  • Posts 3,034
  • Votes 2,020
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Brian Garrett private and HML which are what these companies are do NO doc loans every day of the week. your not unique.. just call the few I mentioned ... you will get your answer in 5 minutes.

To my understanding HML's are significantly higher interest and have up front points tied in as well. To me these seem like much better options on the surface than HML's.

Remember I do have my own capital so I don't technically "need" to borrow but I "want" to borrow so I can leverage and scale up quicker. It makes far more sense to me to take my cash and have a bunch of properties at 20-25% down rather than have it all tied up into one or two properties.

I'm just trying to figure out the best way to make that happen.

Post: BRRRR without proof of income?

Brian GarrettPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Palm Beach County, FL
  • Posts 3,034
  • Votes 2,020
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

cost of capital is a number.. depending on your market it could be an irrelevant number.

like were @Michaela G. invests were property price to rent ratios are way out of kilter compared to other areas.. she can afford far more in interest rates than most and still make a great income property. you need to see the bottom line.

if you can borrow at 8 or 9 % and still make 300 a door.. what do you do.. NOT do it because you want to borrow at 5 or 6 and make 375 a door.. so you just sit on the side lines and watch the world go buy?

I have personally funded 4 different operators that have gone from zero to 100 to 200 doors in the last 3 years all with our private money. and we are not bank rates by anymeans but they make 200 to 300 a door so its not really about cost of capital its about scale... had a call with one yesterday by end of may they will be at 180 doors and 140k gross revenue.. and I funded each and every one of them

That's amazing Jay very inspirational. It's exactly the path that I'm looking to follow. I want to be able to scale up my cash flowing rentals utilizing the BRRRR strategy alongside the cash flips that I'll be doing for quicker cash turnaround and to increase both my net worth and working capital.