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All Forum Posts by: Peter Schuyler

Peter Schuyler has started 18 posts and replied 208 times.

Post: Dallas Fort Worth save or buy

Peter SchuylerPosted
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 225
  • Votes 124

Start now, you will reap the benefit of appreciation, get equity buy down, cash flow if your smart about the buy, and interest rates are still decent.  I just bought a duplex @ 4.5% with 20% down and look forward the the positive cash flow even after 2018 bubble if it really happens.

Post: Buying house for Child to help with In State Tuition Costs

Peter SchuylerPosted
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 225
  • Votes 124

Thanks for all the wonderful feedback and ideas.

She was born in Colorado, grew up there as a pre-teen, so she knows the area, but we had to move to TX for my job recently, she wants to go "home" basically.

She got accepted to CSU and wants to move and live in FOCO.  CSU makes you attend freshman year inside the dorms, but she would love to live off campus years 2-4.  Buying her house and letting her rent it will be the target regardless of any break in tuition as this will help her offset the costs long term.

I was not trying to cheat the system, merely trying to figure out that how this native born Coloradian would like to return home, be a resident again, and going to college full time does not seem to work without domicile, so a property might be the ticket.

I'm going to pursue this topic more as it does not hurt to help her setup her new life in Colorado and allow her to try to come out of college without 160K in debt.

Post: Buying house for Child to help with In State Tuition Costs

Peter SchuylerPosted
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 225
  • Votes 124
Originally posted by @Natalie Kolodij:

This wont work. 

College's don't care where you generate passive income via a rental property. They care where you can PROVE you're living. 

She would have to show a w2 for the state, utility bills, certified mail to her at that address. 

You HAVE to live in the state for a year- without attending college there, or out of state, to qualify for in state tuition. Period. 

If they can prove any intent that your purpose was to try to obtain in state tuition and not to legitimately relocate there for reasons outside of school, they'll deny the in state tuition. 

I moved in with my dad for college in a state where he'd lived for 7 years. But I took a few online classes through my old school in my previous state- that denied me the in state tuition. If you have any ties to another state till- they're going to deny it. 

 I'm starting to see the flaw in the plan now, I guess a property could at least offset some of the costs of living in state.  She can not work full-time, be off my taxes and go to school full time, and I know we are not the first family to deal with out of state tuition costs which help fund the in state residents.  What sucks is we used to live there for 10 years and paid income tax as a resident, but that is a wash now.

Post: Buying house for Child to help with In State Tuition Costs

Peter SchuylerPosted
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 225
  • Votes 124
Originally posted by @Levi T.:
Originally posted by @Rick Pozos:

When you try to cheat your way out of something, you end up paying for it in the end. Ask me how I know. Plus, what kind of message are you sending to your child?? You are showing her that the rules do not apply to her if you have a good scheme.

If you are an IT professional you should be making plenty of money. Why are you trying to cheat the system?? YOu should have been saving money for 5 or 10 or 15 years to send your children to college just like everybody else. But instead, you want to try to get out of paying out of state tuition. If you live out of state, pay out of state tuition. Play by the rules.

There are plenty of great colleges and universities here in Texas including the two main systems, University of Texas with lots of branches, and the A and M system also with many branches across the state. 

 That's not cheating, that's following the rules and winning. He could very well move the entire family to the state and get the same deal, would that be cheating? No. As Trump said, it makes him smart. Nicely done Peter!

I figured I would pickup an apartment complex or two when my kids get to that point. Can't lose, save some cash and expand my rental footprint.

We have considered picking up and moving to help her out, but we get bit by the Colorado Income Tax on our W2 income and the cost to move plus 4 years of Income tax would probably be a wash for saving, she will just be stuck with a large student loan like others have done, is just a shame college is so expensive, 40-50K a year for out of state.  15-25K in state.

Post: Buying house for Child to help with In State Tuition Costs

Peter SchuylerPosted
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 225
  • Votes 124
Originally posted by @Rick Pozos:

When you try to cheat your way out of something, you end up paying for it in the end. Ask me how I know. Plus, what kind of message are you sending to your child?? You are showing her that the rules do not apply to her if you have a good scheme.

If you are an IT professional you should be making plenty of money. Why are you trying to cheat the system?? YOu should have been saving money for 5 or 10 or 15 years to send your children to college just like everybody else. But instead, you want to try to get out of paying out of state tuition. If you live out of state, pay out of state tuition. Play by the rules.

There are plenty of great colleges and universities here in Texas including the two main systems, University of Texas with lots of branches, and the A and M system also with many branches across the state. 

 Hey Rick, you do have some valid points.  I was a Colorado resident from 10 years, then moved to Texas for the last 9 years.  CSU has one of the best Vet programs in the nation is why she wants to go, we have saved up some money for her, but the 160K total for out of state is out of our reach.  Buying her a property and having her off our books is the plan, she would have to have a part time job to pay for incidentals and I would not claim her on my taxes, so she is not my dependent anymore.  If she plans to move and live in Colorado, I do not want the state fighting me that she is not a resident, thus the reason for the activity to buy a rental property.   Maybe this plan is way too complicated, and she might end up paying the difference in out of state tuition regardless.  Texas does have good schools, my other daughter goes to Texas State University so I agree with you.  I did not think I was cheating, if so I would not ask for comments in a public forum.

Thanks

Pete

Post: Student rental houses in Ft Collins?

Peter SchuylerPosted
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 225
  • Votes 124
Originally posted by @Patrick Liska:

@Peter Schuyler i would add that you can not claim your child on your taxes either during those years, i was denied residency when my daughter went to college because of that ( PA ). you need to show that your child is completely paying for it and is completely independent from you. my first investment property was just this scenario and now have 2 student rentals plus a few regular rentals in the same town. I love student rentals, but need to look at other college towns, recent changes to school policies hurt the rentals in town, so be aware of things the college is doing at all times with their housing.

 So your daughter could not claim residency because you claimed her on your taxes as a dependent?  Was she paying for her college costs also?

Post: Buying house for Child to help with In State Tuition Costs

Peter SchuylerPosted
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 225
  • Votes 124

My REI lawyer on BP said this might work, I wanted to get some feedback.

  • My daughter will be attending a University in a different state next fall
  • We buy a small house for her this year, and put the title in her name in that State
  • It rents out year one and she generates in state income and claims this on her taxes (lowest tax bracket)
  • Freshman year she lives in dorms as mandated, she switches her drivers license and car insurance to that state year one.
  • Sophomore through Senior year, she moves into one bedroom in the house, rents out the others to friends and still collects rental income and pays local state taxes, expenses, etc and has a place to live.
  • She seeks in state tuition in year two after owning a house in state, collecting income and filing taxes with the state.
  • Her tuition, room and board is being paid by her 529 account in her name, so technically she is "emancipated" from mom and dad.

Has any one tried this to reduce the costs of being an out of state resident during college.  She basically becomes an in state resident by living in state, owning a income property and filling taxes.  The mortgage is in my name (private lender basically)

Pete

Post: Student rental houses in Ft Collins?

Peter SchuylerPosted
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 225
  • Votes 124

Im not sure this is true, but my lawyer suggested the following to help ease out of state tuition for my daughter.  Here is my setup, comments welcome.

  • My wife and I live in Texas, we use to live in Colorado years 1997-2007 in Parker, CO
  • My Daughter will be attending CSU Fall 2017 and plans on staying in Colorado for the foreseeable future, she wants to live and work there but can not support her self while in College.
  • I buy a small house in FOCO or Loveland for my daughter using my credit, my down payment, 2-3 bedroom max.  She is not the party type, but I know the risks are there.
  • Put the house title in my daughters name and have her claim the income on her Colorado State Taxes, she owns the property and generating income as a resident and taxable at her tax rate (smallest).
  • She switches her Drivers license and Car Insurance to Colorado, she is now a resident with an income property she can live in years 2-4 after one year in the dorms.
  • The wore case is CSU does not grant her residency and she offsets the cost of living during years 2-4 with the rental income and has a place to stay.

I think Im missing something, and would love to know if anything has done this, Parents out of state, child claimed as in state, etc.

Pete

Post: Transfer duplex from personal name to LLC

Peter SchuylerPosted
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 225
  • Votes 124
I will be transferring to a Trust. I will update once done. I'm in Texas. .

Post: Any experience with Networth Realty?

Peter SchuylerPosted
  • Fort Myers Beach, FL
  • Posts 225
  • Votes 124

@Branden Korona,

Can you share your recent experience with NetWorth Realty for a year follow up, or have you posted in other threads about the success/downsides?

Thanks

pete