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All Forum Posts by: Dylan Barnard

Dylan Barnard has started 18 posts and replied 117 times.

Post: Do you invest in Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency?

Dylan BarnardPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Justin, TX
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 57
Quote from @Eric Carr:

Joe, you seem to think people only like  Bitcoin for its perceived criminal and tax cheating uses.  I can tell you for certain that is the perception of people who don't understand it but are trying to fight it. Or entities that are threatened and are trying to fight it. I've given concrete reasons why bitcoin is a terrible choice for crime and taxivation, in prime and taxivation, in previous posts and other threads.

The Russian invasion proves exactly why the world needs it. Exactly the same proof that the Canadian government just offered, and the US government when it prohibited the ownership of gold.  In fact, banks can seize your money in the US to prevent solvency. 

I recognize a narrow theme in your arguments against it. At the moment, you've chosen to dislike it, while the rest of the world embraces it. 

It seems like you you side with Chinese and North Korean authoritarianism.  And central bank currency manipulation.

Maybe you don't know this but cash is actually best for crime, laundering, and tax evasion


 Central banks were created specifically to manipulate currency markets, but in a good way lol 

Post: Do you invest in Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency?

Dylan BarnardPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Justin, TX
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 57
Quote from @Eric Carr:
Quote from @Dylan Barnard:
Quote from @Darnell Duncan:

I think it'd be naive to be so dismissive of cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology. I understand the idea behind being skeptical about change, or anything that you're unfamiliar with, but it's pretty obvious there's a lot of value there. 

At the end of the day, all investments are risks. Whether it's in real estate, stocks, business, cryptocurrency etc. What you decide to do should be based on your own situation and your own sense of risk management, not any one else's.

I think blockchain technology will be well apart of our future.


 No one is dismissing the value of the technology, just the value of the coin itself. Like someone mentioned above, PayPal is using Blockchain - I can get behind that idea because they are a company with underlying cash flow and profits. But buying a coin just because you think it will go up in value is reckless in my opinion. There is a fine line between investing and gambling and buying a coin falls on the gambling side IMO. 

 Everyone is welcome to their opinion
What does PayPal do? It facilitates purchases and monetary transfers. Also does so using bitcoin. 

What does bitcoin do? It is an immutable ledger on the most secure network on the planet, is censorship resistant, can't be manipulated or confiscated, hardest form of money ever known.  And it facilitates purchases and instant instant money transfers - for free. And gives a person total ownership of their wealth. Seems pretty damn valuable to me. 

 The Internet is only valuable because of the company's I mentioned? I disagree. The Internet has value because it is valuable. For one, it allows people to send messages, music, pictures, instantly, video chat, and basically for free.  Sound familiar? 
And if it wasn't Google, Amazon, and the rest, it would be someone else. The Internet has always had inherent value. 

However, there were people like Paul Krugman, who thought the Internet was a passing fad.  There were lots of people and "analysts" and "investors" who thought Amazon would never survive. I believe most of the world thought that a stranger would never get into someone else's car nor rent someone's house over the Internet. 

Do you see a pattern?

 If you still don't believe owning a piece of the Internet is more valuable than a company that is built on top of it... Would you rather own a building in times square, or the entire block that everything is built on top of?  




 We are going to have to agree to disagree here man. You are talking in abstracts, I am talking in investment terms. I may be wrong and miss out on Bitcoin going to $1m, but you are deluding yourself if you don't think that comes with immense risk. 

I think crypto enthusiasts need to decide whether they want it to be a currency or a technology. If it's a currency, massive appreciation is a recipe for massive deflation and a shrinking economy where people hoard money and don't invest it and nothing gets done. If it's a technology, then they need to provide some kind of return to the people that buy it. It can't be free for everyone to use like you are suggesting. 

Post: Do you invest in Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency?

Dylan BarnardPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Justin, TX
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 57
Quote from @Darnell Duncan:

I think it'd be naive to be so dismissive of cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology. I understand the idea behind being skeptical about change, or anything that you're unfamiliar with, but it's pretty obvious there's a lot of value there. 

At the end of the day, all investments are risks. Whether it's in real estate, stocks, business, cryptocurrency etc. What you decide to do should be based on your own situation and your own sense of risk management, not any one else's.

I think blockchain technology will be well apart of our future.


 No one is dismissing the value of the technology, just the value of the coin itself. Like someone mentioned above, PayPal is using Blockchain - I can get behind that idea because they are a company with underlying cash flow and profits. But buying a coin just because you think it will go up in value is reckless in my opinion. There is a fine line between investing and gambling and buying a coin falls on the gambling side IMO. 

Post: Do you invest in Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency?

Dylan BarnardPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Justin, TX
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 57
Quote from @Andres Vanegas:
Quote from @Dylan Barnard:
Quote from @Eric Carr:

Established companies? Bitcoin's market cap alone is larger than all of the US banks.  Countries have legalized it, US States have bills to legalize it, and right now, the Ukrainian government is soliciting donations to be made in bitcoin. 

If you haven't seen a cash flow statement then you haven't done enough research. Bitcoin has beat your real estate appreciation for the past 10 years. And yes, you can get a dividend. 


 I already said I am okay with missing out on potentially immense returns. Just realize that the crazy returns you expect means that you are taking on more risk than I am. 

And yeah I guess I haven't done enough research if I haven't been able to find the profit margin of Bitcoin, or a cash flow statement showing it's free cash flow per year. Can you provide me with some resources? 


 Hey Dylan - Bitcoin is a decade and a half old technology which is really only the start of how blockchains will be implemented into our daily lives. You're right unless you are a miner you are not going to find a cash flow analysis for BTC, but would you have found one for the internet in the 90s? This is akin to that. We are not investing in companies but protocols, foundational systems that will be built upon. Thus while many have attempted to map protocols using FCF or DCF, there's always some assumptions that take it astray.

ETH is a bit better to think about since most of the crypto activity is occurring there, I found this article from Ryan Allis on how is company models ETH:

https://coinstack.substack.com...

Hope this helps swallow crypto a bit easier.


 Thank you! Yes, I like the idea of ETH better (seems like the WordPress of the Blockchain), but I still can't bring myself to invest in the actual coin. Yes, let's say I was somehow able to buy a piece of the internet, that's still not where the value is. The value is in the companies that harvest it and make it useful. So buying a virtual coin still just feels like gambling to me, not investing. 

Post: Do you invest in Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency?

Dylan BarnardPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Justin, TX
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 57
Quote from @Eric Carr:

Established companies? Bitcoin's market cap alone is larger than all of the US banks.  Countries have legalized it, US States have bills to legalize it, and right now, the Ukrainian government is soliciting donations to be made in bitcoin. 

If you haven't seen a cash flow statement then you haven't done enough research. Bitcoin has beat your real estate appreciation for the past 10 years. And yes, you can get a dividend. 


 I already said I am okay with missing out on potentially immense returns. Just realize that the crazy returns you expect means that you are taking on more risk than I am. 

And yeah I guess I haven't done enough research if I haven't been able to find the profit margin of Bitcoin, or a cash flow statement showing it's free cash flow per year. Can you provide me with some resources? 

Post: Do you invest in Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency?

Dylan BarnardPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Justin, TX
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 57
Quote from @Eric Carr:

@Dylan Barnard

Google, Amazon, Facebook, windows, ios, PayPal, Visa,  just pieces of computer code. 


Those are all established companies with underlying cash flow and profits that increase over time. I don't understand how that is analogous to crypto. I've never once seen a crypto income statement or cash flow statement. 

Post: REIT investing - Good or bad idea

Dylan BarnardPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Justin, TX
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 57

@Dona Cardenas

When I worked for a financial advisor, they used REITs as a way to distribute wealth for their clients in a strategic and tax advantaged way. They almost always posted a capital loss when selling, but when factoring in the dividends, most clients still came out ahead. I always think about this when looking at REITs. They could be perfect for certain strategies but terrible for others. If you're looking for growth, REITs are typically not the best way to realize that goal. But each REIT has different strategies and goals. Just proceed with caution and be objective. 36% seems like a red flag (salesman trying to sell you an inferior product - too good to be true).

Post: New to DFW - Multi Family Investor

Dylan BarnardPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Justin, TX
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 57

@Colin Ushkowitz

Welcome to DFW Colin! My wife's clients have had mixed experiences with duplexes and the like. I agree - bring your cash. I personally love the city of Denton if you aren't afraid of living up north. Not sure what your occupation is, but Denton is growing fast, and you always have two universities to provide tenants for your investment long term.

Let me know if you want to connect with my wife to discuss anything further about the buying process here in TX or her experiences with MF - she is on BP, Melissa Barnard.

Post: Should landlords require tenants to provide proof of vaccination?

Dylan BarnardPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Justin, TX
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 57

@Rene G. I don't really see the point. All downside, no upside. Vaccination status doesn't affect the landlord, unless I am missing something?

Post: Do you invest in Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency?

Dylan BarnardPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Justin, TX
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 57
Quote from @Dan Huang:
Quote from @Dylan Barnard:

@Mitchell T.

Buying cryptos is not investing. Intelligently investing money into something requires that the asset you are investing in will pay you back in some form in the future. With a stock, it is dividend payments and increased shareholder value with reinvested cash into the business. With REI, it is monthly cash flow via rents minus expenses. With a dollar, which is an actual currency, you can buy "risk free" assets like Treasury bills, notes and bonds, which yield coupon payments (interest) plus the present value of the principle that is paid back at maturity, etc.

You cannot (to my knowledge) buy any kind of bond or get any kind of yield out of cryptos. Therefore, it is not an asset, and it is not an investment. It is strictly a gamble. Please keep this in mind when you are putting any money into these so-called "investments". No crypto owns the blockchain. There's no way for you to get any kind of positive yield or return unless it goes up in value because of others saying it is worth more. That is a very dangerous game to play. It is nothing more than a sophisticated Chuck E. Cheese token. 

 @Dylan Barnard do you still stand by your statement above? I think you misunderstood the technology, just like the boomers who misunderstood "internet".

Cryptocurrencies, be it Cardano, Rippple, Litecoin, whatever... are all just "startups" leveraging blockchain technology. And just like startups, 99% of these projects will fail. But that doesn't mean these projects have no value - they've paved the way for improved technology... from Smart Contracts to Tokenization to Staking. 

In many ways, investing in crypto assets has proven to be a safer bet than the dollar, which as of writing this post, loses 1% in value every 30 days - how's that for dumb money? 


 Still stand buy it. I still have to pay my bills in dollars, so I don't see how it is any better than buying a house in the meta verse that I can't actually live in but just pretend to live in.

I prefer to focus on cash flow with real assets like property and fundamentally sound stocks with healthy dividends than gamble on someone in the future paying me more for a piece of computer code. That just makes more sense to me. If someone wants to make that gamble, go for it. It just doesn't fall within my personal risk parameters. If I miss out on crazy gains, I am okay with that. Risk = reward, so you can't have immense returns without immense risk.