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All Forum Posts by: William M.

William M. has started 27 posts and replied 71 times.

Originally posted by @Chet Mazur:

I have been looking at this structure as well. The part I have been unable to get clear on is the phantom income that is thrown off. Have you come across a good source of accounting info?

You have to look at the cap/term/etc to come up with a deal that works for CTL. I am looking to do a 100% deal that will fund an obligation I have in the future when the property is paid off..

The costs of the loan seem to very ALOT from broker to broker / lender to lender. One lender was burying 400K in costs into the deal.

I haven't found any accounting information on this subject. But i do believe due to the structure of the financing in which the loan is sized to a 1.00x to 1.10x Debt Service Coverage Ratio, there is typically little to no cash flow available to the borrower after debt service. Instead, those cash flows are monetized upfront, thus requiring the borrower to make a smaller equity contribution or, in some cases, receiving cash at funding(Source: Click Here). I would to make this work to even be able to receive a small amount from the proceeds. Could you explain the lender you spoke of that buried 400k of cost into the deal and explain what that means. Thanks for your comment!

I would like to know if anyone has any experience with utilizing CTL Loans to purchase Absolute NNN properties or knows of their structuring? My goal is to purchase Absolute NNN properties to create passive income for myself. But the down payment required on NNN properties is so large and without that it's difficult to get financing. I've done some research on CTL lenders but I don't know if you'd still be able to receive income from a property even after all expenses are paid. Are all proceeds used to pay the loan off? Some CTL lenders provide 100% LTC/LTV and in some cases even more. Is there a way to structure these deals(syndication) with minimal funds out of pocket while being able to close and have passive income? Thanks for you input!

Post: Seeking 20% ARV Funding for Multiple Properties.

William M.Posted
  • High Point, NC
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 19

I'm looking for a lender to lend 20% of the ARV of the properties I find in NC for 3-6 months. I work with a partner  that flips properties but I only need to provide the 20%. What return do you expect on the money you lend and do you offer a balloon payment or no payment options?

Post: Looking For Commercial 100+ Unit Investors

William M.Posted
  • High Point, NC
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Luis Carrera:

Hey BP,

Have several opportunities available for investors. I am looking for Private Investors to work together as either a Debt or an Equity partnership for commercial property that my group is acquiring. We have two properties UC and looking to add two more by June.

We have Debt or Equity opportunities. Total Assets are around $23 million to be repositioned into about $40 million within the next 12-24 months.

If interested, please message me.

 We're you able to find the private investors you needed to close on these properties. I am looking to do something similar. Thanks and Happy New Year!

Originally posted by @Derek Carroll:

I’ve done 100% financing deals they are called CTL transactions. They are based entirely on the credit of the tenant and are more of a bond than a real estate loan.

The loan has to amortize out to $0 within the term of the base lease period which is why they typically only work on deals with 15-25+ years remaining on the lease. Otherwise more cash is required at closing to meet the required debt coverage covenants.

This deal doesn’t sound like a candidate for a CTL transaction but I want people to know that 100% financing is available for single tenant deals with an “INVESTMENT GRADE” tenant. That said it’s not always the best debt product for every deal or situation.

 Thank you Mr. Carroll. These are the exact lenders I have been researching. I believe you are correct for this deal because it's an assumption but the time period left on the lease is more than 15 years(20+ years). I have found properties with investment grade tenants. Some of which have new leases that will commence next year. Please message me with the details and please refer to my post in the marketplace. Thank you for your time and Happy New Year!

Post: Looking for Debt/Equity Partners for Acquiring NNN Properties

William M.Posted
  • High Point, NC
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 19

Hello to the BP community,

NesMac Investments is in search of private investors interested in partnering to have a debt and/or equity position for Absolute NNN properties located primarily in the state of North Carolina.

There are a selection of lenders who can lend up to 100% LTV/LTC for these types of properties. These loans are supported by a long term lease from a credit tenant (Walgreens, CVS, Wal-Mart, etc.). NesMac is in need a credit partner, with qualification ability, who can fund closing cost, inspection fees that may be part of the application, and deposit fees that may be required before and/or after loan commitment which may be refundable at closing. There are properties that have been selected to pursue, some of which are new construction whose leases will commence next year. If interested, please send a message to discuss these lenders, properties selected, and JV solutions/specifics. Thank you for your time.

Originally posted by @Joel Owens:

NO

You would put down about 5 million to assume the existing loan. There is no mention of when the loan is due. That is important as pharmacies typically have FLAT RENT during the primary lease term.

There is generally a loan assumption fee and borrower needs to qualify to assume the loan.

Annul rent of 498,804 today is not worth that in 2020,2030 year dollars etc. because of inflation.

Often very heavy pre-pay penalties into the 7 figures to break a loan early like this and put new debt on it. These are often bought for tax shelters or estate planning purposes. Some developers use them for pay down and re-advance features.

What happens if loan comes due and interest rate is then 7% in the market 6 years from now but rent is still flat and the same? Even starting at such a low LTV lender likely on new loan will want more cash. This is why sellers generally sell then and 1031 to something else.

Hard money loan? The property is only cash flowing about 4%. Know any hard money lenders at 4%?

You might want to read up on some material for NNN space to fully understand it. Things you are proposing are not realistic.

Good luck.

Thank you for you comment. I have yet to find out a lot of information about this deal because of the holidays. I have discovered that there is a 1% assumption fee for the loan as well as qualification requirements. And I will update when I find out more about how the loan is structured. I have found lenders who lend up to 100% LTV/LTC for these types of commercial properties. But with this comes inspection fees with the application and deposit amounts that are a percentage of the loan that may be required before and/or after the signing of the commitment to the loan which may be refundable after the closing. But I am determined to make this work. Thank you and have a Happy New Year.

Post: NNN Lease Debt Assumption - Here's the details and questions

William M.Posted
  • High Point, NC
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Eliana Mckee:

I can help. PM me lets talk.

 Thank yous Eliana and Merry Christmas to you.

Post: NNN Lease Debt Assumption - Here's the details and questions

William M.Posted
  • High Point, NC
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 19

Property Details:

Purchase Price: $9,500,000

Annual Rent: $498,804

Cap Rate: 5.25%

Lease Expiration: 2/28/2038

Lease Type: NNN

Year Built: 2013

Options: 10, 5-year

Gross Leasable Area: 14,534 SF

Building Class: B

Lot Size: 3.20 AC

Tenancy: Single

No. Stories: 1

Assumable debt:

Wells Fargo Loan Balance: $4,728,897

Interest Rate: 4.5%

Amortization: 30 years

Annual Payment: $304,011

Cash-on-Cash Return: 4.01%

Lease abstract:

Tenant: Walgreens

Guarantor: Walgreens Boots Alliance, Inc. (NYSE: WBA, S&P: BBB+)

Lease Structure: Absolute triple-net

Lease term remaining: 21+ years

Lease expiration: 2/28/2038

Options to extend: 10, 5-year options to extend

Landlord responsibilities: None. The tenant is responsible for all repair and maintenance of the property, including the roof and structure.

Site demographics:

Average Daily Traffic Count (ADT): 23,000

1-mile Average Annual Household Income (AHHI): $99,969

POPULATION:

1-mile radius: 6,095

3-mile radius: 42,886

5-mile radius: 124,077

Questions(using the information provided above):

1. How does assuming the debt of commercial properties work in general, and specifically for NNN properties?

2. What requirements may need to be met by the lender and can bringing on an equity/funding/credit partner help close such a deal?

3. Is there usually a down payment required? How much should I expect?

4. Am I simply assuming the balance on the loan or paying the listed price?

5. Is it possible to do a seller carry back for the down payment?

6. Is it possible to positively leverage(100% financing scenario) such a deal using creative financing(private lender(s), hard money loan, etc.?

I'd like to request for a referral for a private money lender that directly lends there own funds who may be interested in doing a JV on the property. Please let me know if you need any additional details.

Property Details:

Purchase Price: $9,500,000

Annual Rent: $498,804 

Cap Rate: 5.25%

Lease Expiration: 2/28/2038

Lease Type: NNN

Year Built: 2013 

Options: 10, 5-year

Gross Leasable Area: 14,534 SF

Building Class: B

Lot Size: 3.20 AC 

Tenancy: Single 

No. Stories: 1

Assumable debt:

Wells Fargo Loan Balance: $4,728,897 

Interest Rate: 4.5% 

Amortization: 30 years 

Annual Payment: $304,011 

Cash-on-Cash Return: 4.01%

Lease abstract:

Tenant: Walgreens 

Guarantor: Walgreens Boots Alliance, Inc. (NYSE: WBA, S&P: BBB+) 

Lease Structure: Absolute triple-net 

Lease term remaining: 21+ years 

Lease expiration: 2/28/2038 

Options to extend: 10, 5-year options to extend 

Landlord responsibilities: None. The tenant is responsible for all repair and maintenance of the property, including the roof and structure.

Site demographics:

Average Daily Traffic Count (ADT): 23,000 

1-mile Average Annual Household Income (AHHI): $99,969 

POPULATION: 

1-mile radius: 6,095

3-mile radius: 42,886 

5-mile radius: 124,077 

Questions(using the information provided above):

1. How does assuming the debt of commercial properties work in general, and specifically for NNN properties?

2. What requirements may need to be met by the lender and can bringing on an equity/funding/credit partner help close such a deal? 

3. Is there usually a down payment required? How much should I expect?

4. Am I simply assuming the balance on the loan or paying the listed price?

5. Is it possible to do a seller carry back for the down payment?

6. Is it possible to positively leverage(100% financing scenario) such a deal using creative financing(private lender(s), hard money loan, etc.?

Thanks for everyone who helps me this and Merry Christmas to all!