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All Forum Posts by: David Garner

David Garner has started 4 posts and replied 92 times.

Post: How do I find mortgage notes that I can buy?

David GarnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Ellwood City, PA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 124
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Patricia Lashley:

What does everyone think about buying mortgage notes?

Is there profit in doing this?

I understand the concept but cannot figure out how to find and negotiate the notes themselves?

Is there a forum where notes are sold? Do I just start calling up banks/credit unions?

Any advice would be appreciated.

@David Garner   has some good content that he shares that is perfect for beginner note investors. 


 Thanks, Jay! Always happy to help @Patricia Lashley... feel free to DM me for some pointers to good content.

Post: Investing in a rental property in the UK

David GarnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Ellwood City, PA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 124
Quote from @Saunya Wenger:

I am exploring the idea of buying a small apartment in the UK for a rental or short-term business. I have talked to a few brokers in the UK and have gotten different advice on buying the property in my name or in a Limited Company (like an LLC). Does anyone have insight or experience in this market or buying options?


 Hi Saunya... UK-based investor here. Happy to talk if you'd like?

DG

Quote from @Alan Hale:

We've all read how to finance RE deals with hard money and private money. Does anyone have experience being a HML or private lender? If so, do you have books you recommend, or a place where I can start learning? If you want to PM about it (not on a public forum) I'd love to talk to you about it.

Hi Alan... I run a private lending program where we help passive investors become lenders. We have nothing to sell you, and I'd be happy to chat.

DG

Quote from @Artur A.:

How much cash do you recommend having in reserve for rental (SFH converted to a duplex)? The house is old, 1916. The roof is new, and the furnace & AC is 2011.

Hey Artur.... Good question! Here's what I do...

First, some context... 

I have 104 houses. Most of my properties are aged 1920 to 1960, ARVs range from $70k $120k. They are invariably rehabs where we often replace the roof and furnace. They rent between $775 and $1,000. Taxes vary from $800 to $2,000.

I allocate as follows:

At leasing: $2,500 in the reserve account.

Ongoing: 10% of gross rents added to the reserve account monthly for repairs/vacancy.

Ongoing: Prorated taxes added to reserve account monthly.

Ongoing: Prorated insurnace added to reserve account monthly.

Ongoing: 10% Management paid out of gross rents.

An average house looks like this:

Rent: $975
Management: $90
Taxes: $125
Repairs/vacancy: $90
Insurance: $50
Note after cash out refi: $450
NET cashflow: $170/month

This leaves zero cash in the deal, $2,500 in reserve funded from the cash out refi, maybe a few bucks cash to me as well, reserve fund increasing by $90/month from the get-go.

Everyone is different, but that's how I do it.

Remember, these are houses I just rehabbed, so while stuff still goes bump in the night, we preempt a great deal of capex. Also, I have sufficient scale to accommodate unexpected capex from my overall cashflow amd total combined reserve fund.

Good luck.

DG

Quote from @Tim Ivory:

Uggh, this is not what I want to hear, but I cannot ignore your guys advice. Yes, he is asking a wire transfer in advance as a commitment fee.

@David Garner Sounds like it would be prudent to run the risk of sounding ungrateful by asking him to allow escrow (see post above). If he was okay with that, would that quite your concern?

He gave me a lot of advice in a phone call a few years ago, and I kinda feel he is going out of his way to help me a bit here with the loan. Kind of see him a like a potential mentor.

Has anyone here ever paid upfront on a loan commitment fee, ever? Did it work, were you scammed? Could really use others experience at this point.


Hey Tim

Well done for doing your DD, that's exactly how to NOT get scammed.

Is the loan is secured against the house? I assume so, in which case its a 2nd postion loan and the terms just seem a little iffy to me personally. 

I write a loan yesterday from a private lender at 9% with 2 points and 65% LTV, and that was in first position.

Also, with you as the borrower and your parents on title, that can make things a little more complex in terms of paperwork etc. Is this a conversation you've had with this lender already, or did they just leap in and make an offer to lend without discussing that? If so, that would be another red flag for me.

Do you have a website for these guys? I'll take a look and give you my personal opinion of you'd like?

Quote from @Tim Ivory:

I am rehabbing my parents property as my first rehab project. 180K is left on mortgage and 45K in renovation costs with an ARV of 450K. I am applying for a renovation loan only for 60K.

I found a lender (1stcapitallending) who would would give me 7% interest over six months, total cost of loan is 2100 funding 100% of the Loan with no downpayment. This is great, but there is a loan commitment fee of $1200 that I wasn't expecting so I'm doing my due diligence. 

Does anyone have experience with 1stcapitallending? How common are upfront loan commitment fees?


Are they asking you to wire this upfront? I have no experience with this lender, but in my experience any lender asking you to wire them funds in advance is likely a scam.

Post: Costs when using Hard Money

David GarnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Ellwood City, PA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 124
Quote from @Jerika Demos:

Hello everyone! 

I have found a property, well it kinda found me. I think this was all meant to be. An, although I am scared *hitless to jump in, I would be so dumb to not even try! So, here I am trying to figure out the money piece :D. Please, help a sister out! 

With zero capital (for now) I will either need a personal loan or hard money. As of right now, I am leaning towards hard money. 
When borrowing hard money, besides the higher rate and closing costs are there other fees that someone should be aware of? Are the closing costs higher? I am playing with numbers, but would love to have a better idea of what exactly to put. 

I really hope I can make this work. This project would be a challenge, but I am so ready to take it on. 

JD


 Hey Jerika

Congrats on finding the deal. There are a few things I can add for you here.

First off, you mention you have zero liquid capital right now to put into the deal. That will likely be a problem for most legit hard money lenders. You'll find them mostly offering 80% loan to contract and a portion of rehab costs. So in that case, you'd still need to find 20% of the purchase price in liquid cash to buy the property.

Private money from a real genuine private investor might go to 100% if you know them, but its still a big risk for the lender, so it would most likely have to be someone in your network already that knows and trusts you. A fanily member for example. From the lenders point of view, if the project goes wrong (rehab cost overruns, valuation issue etc.) then they'll potentially be underwater and losing money. 

If you're prepared to take the financial risk yourself, then you can use a personal loan for the deposit and some reserve funds, and hard or private money for the rest. If you do this, make sure you have reserve funds for rehab overage. Prices are going up weekly, and can almost guarantee that your rehab will cost more in 30 days than any contractor quote you get today.

People do this all the time. Its quite common for an investor to use a HELOC or some other line of credit as their seed capital. I've even seen it done with credit cards more then once.

First thing... figure out exactly what terms you can get from a lender, amd exactly what money you'll need for the purchase, and exactly what money you'll need for the rehab, the add 20% to the rehab budget to keep as a reserve. From there, you'll know what liquid cash you'll need to source.

Eg.

PP 100k

Closing costs 3k

Rehab 20k

Reserve 5k

Total Contract 103k

Hard Money Terms 80%

Hard Money Loan 82.4k

Liquid Cash Required 45.6k

To answer your inital question about costs and fees for hard money, it varies between lenders, but there will be 2 or 3 points and probably about $1,500 in processings fees. You may also be paying for appraisals etc. Again, this can vary wildly between lenders, so get a proper quote from an actual lender who is prepared to fund your project.


Pro Tip... never ever pay lenders any fees upfront. If they ask for upfront fees its likely to be a scam. Everythig comes out of closing.

Good luck with the project!

DG

Post: Using OPM to Purchase a Home

David GarnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Ellwood City, PA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 124
Quote from @Jared Jackson:

I’ve got the opportunity to use OPM to buy a house in cash, so how exactly do I purchase the house? Do the lenders purchase it under their name or do they write a check to me so that I can purchase it under my name? I feel like if they write me a check then there will be tax implications. It’s my first time using OPM and any advice would be greatly appreciated.


 Hey Jared...

At closing, title would be recorded in your name, and mortgage deed or deed of trust will be recorded for the lender. Lender wires funds to escrow amd the title co will distribute to the seller and various costs, fees and taxes. You and the lender will have a promissory note detailing the terms of the loan. This is not recorded, but rather its a signed legal contract between you and the lender.

I hope that helps.

Good luck

DG

Post: One Of My Financial Regrets In My Late 20's

David GarnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Ellwood City, PA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 124
Quote from @Cole Simpson:

One of my financial regrets was not buying a multifamily investment property in my late 20s. Instead of taking advantage of multifamily investment opportunities to generate more passive income...

Sam Dogen wrote this fascinating article about how to think about real estate investing during a worldwide pandemic. Specifically hitting topics such as Multifamily, AirBnb, student housing, and micro apartments. Definitely worth a read if you are trying to create passive income.

What are your thoughts? Anything you'd do differently if you could do it again?


 Hey Cole... Great post!

While I do t have any regret per se as even the bad stuff got me to where I am today. But in terms of big lessons, there are plenty...

Don't over trust. Even good people do bad things. Do your DD, verify everything you're told,  get signed paperwork for absolutely everything. 

If I'd have done that (over trusted) I wouldn't have lost over $1.5m, my business, and my reputation in one fell swoop due to a busines partner turned scammer.

I also wish I'd have understood that any business, especially real estate, is about people. Partners, buyers, sellers, tenants, customers, employees, services providers, contractors, title, realtors, apprasiers, home inspectors, insurmace folk ... These people are the lifeblood of of your RE buinsess. The buildings are just the product.

If I'd have understood that sooner, I'd have built a better team faster, and progressed and grown way quicker.

So, regrets?.... no. 

Heavy lessons?.... Lots!

Thanks for the great post.

DG

Post: Struggling To Find The Path To Passive Income

David GarnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Ellwood City, PA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 124
Quote from @Steven Rosenfeld:

Thanks David - I do appreciate that owning and managing a lot of rental properties can be far from a passive income experience! 

Private Lending and REIT investing seem not much different to me than stock/bond investing. What kind of ROI can I expect since I won't be able to leverage up? And then I'm not owning an asset that has tax advantages and can appreciate. I'm new to this so I've no doubt I'm missing something, but thats my initial reaction.


 I will just add one more thing, Steven. 

Diversify!

Invest in syndications.

Buy performing notes.

Do some private lending.

Buy a REIT or 2.

Being diversified is the best advice I never got, d learned the hard way what NOT being well diversified can do.

Good luck

DG