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All Forum Posts by: Logan Turner

Logan Turner has started 42 posts and replied 271 times.

Post: Anyone Rent In an Expensive Area & Buy Cheap Elsewhere?

Logan TurnerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 283
  • Votes 179
Another opinion. While appreciation in pricey markets is nice, it's also gambling. You can not look into the front window and see where an investment will go. If we could, we all would buy where it will appreciate the most and no one would have been blown up in 08. Instead we are driving on a foggy road and can only see 1 ft in front of us as we go. So buying for cash flow is prudent. Buying for appreciation (of rent or value) is more risky. I think based on your age, and net worth goals you need to weigh the two. Lastly, if you invest appropriately, you will be able to buy in whatever market you desire. But I think he poster above made some great points about buying where you want to live. Live where you want and invest where it makes the most sense. Just realize you will need to be familiar with that area and travel there often. So pick a place you like :) Best of luck.

Post: 2 four plex apartment deal

Logan TurnerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 283
  • Votes 179
I think Garrison Householder is giving very solid advice but it's also very conservative. People will say expenses at 10 percent.. but that's quite a different number on 3k, rent vs 800 rent. I like to use 150$ per month per door. This has seemed to run true over a few years for me. Some months will be less some will be more. Capital expenses will occur. Water heater, roof, etc. so I would look at the condition of these big ticket items and estimate how much life you have left out of each of these. That's not to say you won't get surprises, you will, but generally I keep a reserve to handle these things when they occur. Even if you are cash flow -100. This property may still yells a return if you factor in appreciation, and Texas / depreciation. Also, -100 a month is no big deal if you are getting 1000 a month in debt pay down. People happily throw money at a 401k each month. I would look at in the Same light. If employee(you) pays 100 a month and employer matched it by putting in 1000/mo. Most would take that deal. With that being said, evaluate your own income and risk tolerance. I wouldn't personally take on too many neg cash flowing deals. But one here and there is not horrible. Rents go up, debt pay down occurs and appreciation does happen. Better if forced. 40 percent expenses seems to be more realistic. 50 is a very safe number to use though.

Post: Deal makers guide by Ray Alcon

Logan TurnerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 283
  • Votes 179
Bryan Hancock yeah, I've heard a few people say that. And it's a great sign that it's a quality resource. I'm sure there are people out there that buy it and end up never getting into Multifamily. I have the capital, just always looking for a deal ;) I'll look into that symposium. I have more flexibility with my job this year so I'm looking to attend a few seminars. Thanks for the recommendation.

Post: Deal makers guide by Ray Alcon

Logan TurnerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 283
  • Votes 179
Korie Apgar I've read a couple of Brandon's books. I'll buy the 7 figures one too ;) he puts out great material. My father in law owns lots of multifamily but he's a little indifferent, and unfortunately is not a resource I can access. I plan to reach out to brokers and network more. I just wanted a little more education in the area before I start contacting potential brokers. I guess I could also "practice" in areas I have no interest in buying.

Post: Basic multifamily questions

Logan TurnerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 283
  • Votes 179
Thanks Nick B. Great resource and reference point for all the numbers. I'd give ya 3 likes if I could!

Post: Basic multifamily questions

Logan TurnerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 283
  • Votes 179
Michael Le Stating their NOI is 75percent of gross rents. Ex. 88,500 NOI (actual) 8 units @ 1200 = 115,200

Post: Deal makers guide by Ray Alcon

Logan TurnerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 283
  • Votes 179
Anybody have a used copy that they would like to sell??? Looking to get educated in the multifamily area, reading a book by Berges now, but looking for something more in depth. Also, anybody recommend any educational programs or seminars? I don't mind investing a few k into my education. But obviously I want something with value not just guru pitches about how easy something is. I have experience in single family rentals (marketing, rehabbing etc) Thx everyone

Post: Basic multifamily questions

Logan TurnerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 283
  • Votes 179
Im studying multifamily in an effort to move from single family rentals to Multi's I have a few beginner questions. What's a good average to use for operating expenses? 40%? I'm asking because in evaluating gross rents vs actual net operating income, I'm trying to determine which properties offer a value add opportunity by cutting bloated costs. I'm seeing deals at caps of 3-5 percent for B- to C class properties in B to C areas. Their net operating income is 75-80 percent of gross rents. How can people make money on any of these deals? Have seller carry back, to boost Cash RoR? Examine market rents and try to pretty up the property to raise rents moderately? Lots of musings, sorry for the rant. Just trying to get my head around multifamily in today's market. (Market area: San Diego, San Antonio, Dallas and west Texas)

Post: 2 four plex apartment deal

Logan TurnerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 283
  • Votes 179
Can't see the picture.

Post: Who provides receipts or current balance on seller finance deals?

Logan TurnerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 283
  • Votes 179
Eric S. Is your company national or local? I'm always interested in partnering up for some deals if it makes sense for both parties 👍🏼