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All Forum Posts by: Collin Hays

Collin Hays has started 113 posts and replied 2330 times.

Post: Short term rental Neighborhoods

Collin Hays
#2 Short-Term & Vacation Rental Discussions Contributor
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I would go to the city and ask for zoning for each neighborhood. You want to find neighborhoods that are classified as mixed use.  Residential, multi-family, b&b, light commercial.  

Post: Property Manager Considerations

Collin Hays
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Other than the obvious things, how responsive are they to homeowners? Can you get the owner of the company on the phone if there is a concern?  How much repairs/maintenance are they able to do in-house without calling out expensive contractors?  How much are they relying on "virtual assistants" to handle guest matters?  Can they provide you a list of homeowner client references that you can call?

Post: In the Smokies, size matters

Collin Hays
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This is a 3000 square foot cabin.  You can see, the actual nights rented are far less. 

Post: In the Smokies, size matters

Collin Hays
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Quote from @Michael Baum:

Really cool. @Collin Hays, do you find it harder to fill mid-week dates?

I have seen that larger units seem to draw longer stays vs smaller units. You get the 3 days weekends and the rest is empty.

 It just rents more days, period. Rented 299 days in 2024. That's typical.

Post: In the Smokies, size matters

Collin Hays
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I have watched, with interest, the rental activity of each cabin in our portfolio since 2019.  We have a number of properties that have remained pretty consistent in rental income throughout that time.  I will profile one of those today.  It's called Bare Hugs, and you can find it on our website if you want to have a look at it.  Bare Hugs was purchased in 2018 for $270,000. It is only 900 square feet - a one bedroom + loft, in Blackbear Falls Resort, and has a wonderful view.  Repairs and maintenance are probably $3,000 per year - not a lot of moving parts to this cabin.  

Here is the rental revenue, by year, for Bare Hugs:

2019  $31,712

2020  $39,028

2021  $46.322

2022  $51,412

2023  $53.364

2024  $50,817

The consistency of this small cabin is astounding. We have several others that are similar. Meanwhile, the giant cabins have seen some significant declines in the last 3 years. Perhaps a good ROI strategy in the Smokies is, keep things simple. You don't need a 3,000 square foot cabin to make money. Bare Hugs is a money machine, and looks to stay that way.

Post: Rough Terrain Ahead! A Walk Down Memory Lane

Collin Hays
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Quote from @Michael Baum:

Post: Rough Terrain Ahead! A Walk Down Memory Lane

Collin Hays
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I was going through some of my old blog entries and found this one from 38 months ago. Maybe I should become a coin-operated sooth sayer.  ;)


WARNING: ROUGH TERRAIN AHEAD

Post: Short Term Rental, Long Term Wealth Book Feedback

Collin Hays
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Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Collin Hays:
Quote from @V.G Jason:

A new book cause the old methods don't work no more?


As you have pointed out, there was a brief window of market imbalance which allowed some fortunes to be made.  Things went parabolic, and when you asked the experts when it would end, the answer was “never…it’s different this time.”  

When you hear that phrase, it’s time to do something else.  

I would pause if they were considered the "experts".

You are absolutely right. To add to it, books are written in a period of time. They don't evolve, for something to need to be re-written in 3-4 years or under though, really questions the credibility of the angle. Re-written every 8-10 years is more about right. 12 + definitely needs it.

Food for thought for people that want "expert" opinions.
There is only one book that I consider my expert opinion. 

Post: Short Term Rental, Long Term Wealth Book Feedback

Collin Hays
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Quote from @V.G Jason:

A new book cause the old methods don't work no more?


As you have pointed out, there was a brief window of market imbalance which allowed some fortunes to be made.  Things went parabolic, and when you asked the experts when it would end, the answer was “never…it’s different this time.”  

When you hear that phrase, it’s time to do something else.  

Post: House Rules - Only on OTA or separate version

Collin Hays
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Quote from @Tom Dieringer:

I've read a lot about house rules and there seems to be two paths - only posting simplified/abbreviated rules on the respective OTA, or having more detailed rules sent out and approved.  Curious what the consensus is.  I'm in a vacation market.  Thanks


 Keep it on the OTA. And no one ever reads the rules. ;)