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All Forum Posts by: Jay Leisten

Jay Leisten has started 8 posts and replied 341 times.

Post: Local Real Estate get together in Louisville, Kentucky

Jay LeistenPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 362
  • Votes 232

Im in if you plan to have one in January.

Post: Tips for Real estate investing debt free?

Jay LeistenPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 362
  • Votes 232

Thanks Brett! I'll be sure to chat with you a bit at the meetup. Curious if we are talking about the same zones? Likely we are. The second income part isnt so tough as I work as an illustrator, so my time is flexible, and residuals from books can help keep me funded, even when I am not working.

Post: Tips for Real estate investing debt free?

Jay LeistenPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 362
  • Votes 232

@Joe Villeneuve  Truer words may have never been spoken.

Post: Tips for Real estate investing debt free?

Jay LeistenPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 362
  • Votes 232
Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:

@Kendall T. So, you put $19k in it all cash, and you rented it out for $625/month.  That means, that assuming you didn't have to pay taxes, insurance, repairs and had no vacancies, you would have made $7500/year.

However, we all know you did have to pay taxes, insurance, etc...  So, a better assumption would be that you made at best half of that = $3,750/year...which means, you were behind (as in lost money) until at least 6 years...if all went well.

Now, if that's OK with you, that's OK with me...it's your money.  One question though.  If you are paying all cash for these properties, how long does it take before you get enough cash put together for the next deal?

 Thats what Im wanting to hear is the compounding purchasing power factor. I make plenty of money to support my family, so I'd be putting 75-100% back into the next purchase, plus another 6-12k out of my pocket. based on these #'s I am buying 1 myself every year, and the 1st house buys 1 for me end of year 2 ( so 3 total owned), the second buys me one in year 3 ( 5 total) year 4 I buy 1, as does house 1, As well as 2 & 3 buy one together ( 8 total) then in year 5 it would essentially double on itself? Thats really simple math I know, but even at 50% vacancy I am likely at 6-7 prperties at year 5, just because I bought 5 out of my own pocket, and the others produced atleast 1.

Post: Tips for Real estate investing debt free?

Jay LeistenPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 362
  • Votes 232

Hi Nate,

I run my own business which is in entertainment, so its boom/bust, so I've always been a conservative investor to offset that. I do have a stock portfolio, and understand what you are getting at. I love that this is getting people out to discuss this method. I've heard 1-2 people refer to Ramsey on the podcast, as an intro to this world, so I was curious how many are actually doing it or something close to it.

Post: Tips for Real estate investing debt free?

Jay LeistenPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 362
  • Votes 232

Thanks Don! I will look that book up. If I partnered in that fashion and operated as Property Manager, would I need to be licensed or as part owner, I'm guessing Im exempt from that?

Joe, I really appreciate you running the scenarios with the #$'s That does help in seeing my options.

Post: Tips for Real estate investing debt free?

Jay LeistenPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 362
  • Votes 232

Joe, Matt & Cody,

I've been a Dave Ramsey guy since '99 thus the debt free thought process. I have loosened up over time. My wifes family has been in real estate development in Miami, and cycled boom/bust so shes in constant fear of us joining that club.

Make sense for the Cash only process?

MATT: That process is exactly what I would do left to my own devices, and over time IF the comfort level improves with it. That is what I will do.

Post: Tips for Real estate investing debt free?

Jay LeistenPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 362
  • Votes 232

thanks Dave & Mark,

I'm caught up on the podcasts at this point and have read the quick guide, Rich Dad/Poor Dad, and am looking at JScotts book in the next few weeks. Brandons is on the schedule soon as well.

Just to clarify, a large part of my strategy was to make a purchase like this every 6-9 months, so that at 4-5 years Im holding 10-15 properties 100% after repairs/marketing cash flow. At that point I would likely upgrade to higher value property by selling the group off?

Post: Tips for Real estate investing debt free?

Jay LeistenPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 362
  • Votes 232

Thanks Ben & Jeremy!

In my market Im seeing duplex to quads in C(?) quality areas that need some upgrades ( fading roof, vacancies etc) for starting around 20k a door. just wasnt sure if thats too risky for 450-550 a door rents?

Post: Tips for Real estate investing debt free?

Jay LeistenPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 362
  • Votes 232

Im looking to invest but want to do it all cash out of pocket. Is there anyone here who started working that way with say 15-25k? Sweat equity is no problem for me. Should I be scouting forclosure sales on the courthouse steps? buying micro condos?