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All Forum Posts by: Chad McMahan

Chad McMahan has started 7 posts and replied 727 times.

Post: Is Sedona, AZ still a good STR market in 2025 or is it oversaturated now?

Chad McMahan
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  • Residential Real Estate Broker
  • Sedona, AZ
  • Posts 746
  • Votes 498
Quote from @Christine Perez:
Quote from @Chad McMahan:
Quote from @Christine Perez:

If I purchase in Sedona, my budget would only allow for a 2-bedroom townhouse. Is that area too competitive and oversaturated now? 

If that's no longer a great market, where else would you recommend in Arizona? I'm thinking of Page, Williams, Cottonwood and Flagstaff, but I'm open to any area that is not Phoenix or Tuscon. Many thanks!

 Hi Christine.

My clients that can pursue $900k - $4M SFH purchases in Sedona are getting great returns, and typically perform in the top 10% of the STR market.
Unfortunately, the under $800k zone is not performing. Some clients are satisfied to break even in this price range. If that's you situation, there are a few 2 bedroom STR friendly condos that can work. Expect $440k-$550k. I'd be happy to discuss. Reach out if this hits target for you.

Thank you so much for sharing this insight, @Chad McMahan! I was hoping you'd respond to my post bc I saw you respond on a few other Sedona posts with great feedback. :-)

Based on what you shared, we would not be a good fit for Sedona real estate. Are there any other AZ markets you're familiar with that you would recommend? We were considering Page, Williams, Flagstaff and Cottonwood, but we can open it up to anywhere that makes sense.

Hi Christine.
I'm happy to recommend a couple that still have good ROI (albeit the ROI numbers are not as strong as Sedona).
FYI, I'm weary of page, as it is 100% dependent upon Lake Powell, which I watch closely- and Lake Powell water levels are constantly threatened by water demands throughout AZ, Utah, Mexico and elsewhere.

Williams *can* be good. I have a referral recommendation for that area, if you like. I can provide that, privately- let me know if you want this.
Cottonwood, Clarkdale and Cornville *can* be good, if they offer enough amenities, are large enough and have the bedroom count, and are photogenic. I'm happy to consult directly on current opportunities and projected returns in there areas. Please schedule a Zoom chat through my link or message me for that link.
Flagstaff is a fairly tight market, but there are some opportunities up there. If you message me, I'll be happy to get you info for Martin, my team member that works that area and specializes in STR/investment.

Post: Is Sedona, AZ still a good STR market in 2025 or is it oversaturated now?

Chad McMahan
Posted
  • Residential Real Estate Broker
  • Sedona, AZ
  • Posts 746
  • Votes 498
Quote from @Christine Perez:

If I purchase in Sedona, my budget would only allow for a 2-bedroom townhouse. Is that area too competitive and oversaturated now? 

If that's no longer a great market, where else would you recommend in Arizona? I'm thinking of Page, Williams, Cottonwood and Flagstaff, but I'm open to any area that is not Phoenix or Tuscon. Many thanks!

 Hi Christine.

My clients that can pursue $900k - $4M SFH purchases in Sedona are getting great returns, and typically perform in the top 10% of the STR market.
Unfortunately, the under $800k zone is not performing. Some clients are satisfied to break even in this price range. If that's you situation, there are a few 2 bedroom STR friendly condos that can work. Expect $440k-$550k. I'd be happy to discuss. Reach out if this hits target for you.

Post: Unique Historic running AirBNB available For Sale!

Chad McMahan
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  • Residential Real Estate Broker
  • Sedona, AZ
  • Posts 746
  • Votes 498
Wow, what a cool place. I imagine it with pavers and more landscaping + some more additional exterior changes, and it would be killer.

Post: Looking to Pay a Coach

Chad McMahan
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  • Residential Real Estate Broker
  • Sedona, AZ
  • Posts 746
  • Votes 498
Quote from @Jaryn Pierson:
Quote from @Michael Baum:

Hey @Jaryn Pierson, the first thing, you don't own AirBNBs. You own short term rentals.

AirBNB is a platform you list your STR on.

I would advise you to be careful. There are people who will make all sorts of promises and then you find out that you could have done the thinking yourself.

I have found coaches to have a dubious benefit at best. Frankly, you are already in the space and I assume you are doing well. I see value in a coach for someone who has never even dipped a toe into STRs.

Essentially you can add value or improve by looking here for ideas that others have posted. Go out and do some searches for various STR people or even folks just doing cool things to their primary homes and see what you can use.

I get that there is a ton of info out there but I don't think you need to hire a coach to do that work.

Hey @Michael Baum, really appreciate the insight, but wholeheartedly disagree. Yes I am in the space, yes I am doing well. That said, doing well compared to what?  I've spent a good amount of money on coaches across many different industries and time and time again I've felt that when I put myself in front of the right coach the growth has been really strong. I can workout at home, somewhat goal less, and do ok. I can set a goal, hire a coach to guide me and hold me accountable to that goal, and I'll hit it every time. No I don't want to pay some kid on youtube $10k to send me his prerecorded videos. Yes I do want to find that needle in a haystack coach looking to help someone grow their management business in the short term rental space. This business is strictly a fun 'few hours at night' deal for me and I'm looking for a coach to help me set a few goals and then hold me accountable on attaining them. Will I pay for that? You bet.

Hi Jaryn.
I hear you. I also pay for my various systems to be improved and made more profitable and gain leveraged value. Even though I'm considered to be the top STR expert in my area, I'd certainly pay if it meant finding someone with more knowledge/ability than I have, yielding better STR performace.

I optimize all of my clients' properties at no extra charge- but I only do this for clients' properties that are in my expertise radius. For non-clients that purchased with someone else, I charge a tidy sum to optimize their properties- but again, only if they are located within radius. FYI, I have a STR investment book coming out in approximately 5 months that should help with your portfolio optimization.

Question- do you have highly competent and effective/networked agent in the areas where you purchase/own STR's? I only ask, because if they are damn good, they should be assisting you at no extra charge to optimize like crazy and move that needle.

Post: Thoughts on DSCR Loans

Chad McMahan
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  • Residential Real Estate Broker
  • Sedona, AZ
  • Posts 746
  • Votes 498
Quote from @Jacqueline Wright:

DSCR (Debt Service Coverage Ratio) loans are great for real estate investors, especially those buying rental properties. One big benefit is that these loans look at the property's income rather than the borrower's personal income, which can make qualifying easier for investors with multiple properties. It also allows investors to scale up their portfolio faster. However, the downsides are that DSCR loans often come with higher interest rates and require the property to have strong cash flow to meet the lender's standards. For new investors, DSCR loans can be a good option if the property generates enough rental income, but it's important to carefully check the numbers to ensure the deal is profitable.

Correction, they look at (personal/business income + projected property income). That projected property income helps a lot.

Agreed, about everything else. Many times DSCR is not the cheapest money. But, some strong programs have been surfacing over the last 1-2 years.

Post: General Contractors/Hard Money Lenders in Sedona

Chad McMahan
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  • Residential Real Estate Broker
  • Sedona, AZ
  • Posts 746
  • Votes 498
Quote from @Riyanka Saikia:

Hi Everyone,

Does anyone have any recommendations on general contractors and hard money lenders in the Sedona area? We are looking to rehab a place and then do a cash out refinance.


Thank you.

Hi Riyanka.
While I reserve my top shelf contractor info for my clients, I'm happy to provide 3 hard money options. 1 warning- it's normal for most hard money lenders to quote a higher LTV upfront and then drop it, later, increasing your required cash in the 11th hour- so I recommend you pursue 2 at the same time.
Ken Ketter, at the bottom, is the most LTV-stable hard money lender I've worked with in several years, but typically their loan money is dispersed/out- you may get lucky and they may have funds available.

https://capitalfund1.com/
https://www.hardmoneylendersarizona.com/

Ken Ketter 928.853.5339

If I can help with consulting in other ways, just holler. 
Good luck!

Post: Short term ABNB in north Arizona

Chad McMahan
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  • Residential Real Estate Broker
  • Sedona, AZ
  • Posts 746
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Quote from @Rahul Shah:

Is flagstaff saturated for STR? Sedona is saturated, but i dont see that many houses for sale, maybe the returns are still good? i am looking to invest north of Phoenix. Thanks


Hi Rahul.
Some areas North of Phx have a higher percentage of STR's and some have quite a low percentage of STR's. However, Even in the most competitive (Sedona) STR market, only 5% of home owners use the formula that gives huge occupancy and prime market ADR, resulting in a strong ROI. The others are trying hard but really just part of the experience- varying from losing money, breaking even or a small positive cash flow.
Essentially, I'm not concerned about saturation levels, as nowhere in the world is everyone doing it in the most optimized way, with the top performing properties. If you pick a premium cash flow location like Sedona and kick butt with your strategy, the money is coming.

Post: Trying to replace my mom's income with short term rental income.

Chad McMahan
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  • Residential Real Estate Broker
  • Sedona, AZ
  • Posts 746
  • Votes 498
Quote from @Lauren Kormylo:

If your land is in Yavapai county - From the Yavapai County website “As of January 1, 2017, Yavapai County allows the short-term rental of permitted habitable structures. This means that ONLY structures PERMITTED as habitable space for overnight occupancy can be used as short-term rentals. This includes single-family residences, guest houses, apartments and condominiums. This does NOT include travel trailers, recreational vehicles, tents, yurts, gazebos, teepees, sheds, garages, barns, caves, offices or any other structure not permitted for overnight occupancy. Short-term rentals do NOT allow events such as weddings, parties, specialized retreats or any commercial activities.”

So make sure your geodomes qualify for STRs. And that the number of them per acre is permitted. The town of Sedona and the county are not generally in favor of STRs, but have to allow them per state law, and more restrictions have been allowed by the state over time. 





1 small correction- restrictions have not been added in AZ. Only requirements have been added. Meaning, as long as CC&R's do not restrict STR's, they have to permit/allow STR's if you go through several steps.
Yavapai County is not currently requiring anything- as long as no CC&R's restrict, it's fair game. City of Sedona is requiring several things and then they guarantee issuance of the STR permit.

FYI, Coconino county did opt into the STR permit requirement.

Post: STR in Flagstaff?

Chad McMahan
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  • Residential Real Estate Broker
  • Sedona, AZ
  • Posts 746
  • Votes 498
Quote from @Armando Carrera:

Hi everyone,

Wife and I visited Flagstaff over the weekend and loved it. Now are considering purchasing out there to become part time "snowbirds". We have about $100k to put down which is about 20% in the market we are looking at. With high interest rates, we'd be looking at around $3800 PITI. How successful have any of you been in that market? We can cover that monthly but would be happy with a 50% occupancy to help offset those costs. Recommend any tips (for STRs), any guidance etc.

We live in the Phoenix metro area..

Thanks everyone.


Hi Armando.
Flagstaff is better than average for the country, but still yields lower returns than Sedona. Reach out if we can help with either location.

Post: What's the STR forecast for 2023?

Chad McMahan
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  • Residential Real Estate Broker
  • Sedona, AZ
  • Posts 746
  • Votes 498
Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
Quote from @Victor S.:

where's avery and her hubby? Bueller... 


It's semi-recession era in STR-landia..... not that bad, but not that great.
I read occupancy read nationwide now is moving back to pre-covid era, maybe less.

I certainly believe this, as I hear it a lot- here on BP, as well as from clients who invest elsewhere. But it's strange to me, as here in my backyard my clients and I are rocking and rolling- we have it dialed in and we get solid returns. It IS fiercely competitive, though- you have to approach it just right, to get the tasty STR cakes.