Originally posted by @Chingju Hu:
I read his blog as well, FIFighter has lots success investing in the stock market and in the properties in the SF bay area, that's why the turnkey experience is not as good as his other success. But I think different people have different type of investment they are good at. Maybe FIFighter is meant to be a stock investor or something.
Another Blog I follow is 'cash flow diaries' http://www.cashflowdiaries.com/ This guy has 4 or more turnkey in Indianapolis, he loves it and after owning them some time, he even moves to Indianapolis. He's very pleased by the cash flow. He doesn't invest in stock and 401k afaik.
Anyway i think different people have different cup of tea in terms of investment vehicle. it's good to know their stories from both side and determine which one you choose.
Thanks for mentioning me. About 3 years ago is when I first started buying turnkey properties, I had a lot of haters and people telling me then that I should not invest out of state and turnkeys and this and that. Well to this day, I'm very happy I did and wouldn't change it for the world. All 4 of my "turnkeys" that I bought are still performing well today and I have yet to have any crazy issues with them. It was not even close to being a mistake for me. At least not yet! The worst of it was I had to fire one property manager but I moved them over to a better PM and have not had any problems since. It wasn't even a problem with the tenant, just bad communication from the PM and I didn't like that.
My "turnkey" purchases all have appreciated since I bought them, a few of them more then others. Albeit, the market here in Indianapolis the past few years has grown tremendously and the demand is higher then ever. So the numbers and even the locations of where I bought my properties pretty much are non existent now from what these "turnkey providers" are selling today.
As other posters have mentioned, I've only had these for around 3 years and less so really its still very early in the world of owning buy and hold rental properties. Obviously everyone will have a different result or experience with owning properties no matter how or who you purchase them from. One bad rental can and in most cases will RUIN your opinion on owning rental properties.
At the end of the day, I'm just a landlord with a PM, forget that I bought "turnkey". It was indeed easier and more convenient for me to buy "turnkey" when I was living in Austin as I wanted to buy out of state and build my passive income and that is exactly why I did that. I didn't think it was a magical investment that couldn't go wrong. All I wanted was a fully rehabbed house in a decent location that came with qualified tenants. Is that too much to ask for? Apparently it is these days.
Today, i no longer purchase "turnkey" and the last one I did buy via that manner was in January 2016. So its been awhile. I wouldn't go that route today personally because I want and expect higher returns. The numbers I see these days from turnkey providers are horrendous and the locations are atrocious. (In my opinion of course)
I was super picky back then when i was buying turnkey properties and im still to this day super picky about what properties I buy and you should too. Don't ever trust anyone but yourself when analyzing and researching properties to buy.
No matter who you purchase from, there is certain due diligence that needs to be done in order to determine whether or not a "turnkey" or just any rental property will be good for you. I think the most important factor at the end of the day is location. The better the location, the better the tenant base and I think that is the main reason why my properties have performed well to date.
Anyways to sum it up, no I don't invest much in stocks but I do have some for sure. My preferred method of investing is and always will be rental properties. I'm now up to 8 investment properties and I am loving every second of it. Currently saving up for my next one now.
My dream of financial freedom is alive and well and I wont stop until I reach it. If any of my rental properties go sour or just aren't making me money, then ill get rid of it, learn from my mistake and buy another one. Make sure to have an exit strategy people!
Onward and upward my friends!