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All Forum Posts by: Bailey Coleman

Bailey Coleman has started 15 posts and replied 52 times.

I am negotiating with the bank on a short sale and they will not let me use our own title company....Has anyone worked with Golden Eagle Title before in Cleveland Ohio? That is the title company I am forced to work with. Can someone connect me with a rep that works at that company?

Post: 10% down lenders

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Another route you can take is using hard/private money on a cosmetic flip using the BRRRR strategy. If you go this route, I recommend finding a good deal and the lender could possibly fund 90% of the purchase price and 100% of the rehab depending on your FICO and experience. This way you are coming out of pocket with little money and then can refi after the property is rented out and can ideally get all the capital you invested and pay off the hard/private money lender

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Hello, 

I am looking for C class neighborhoods to invest in. I want to stay in Cleveland. I am looking for neighborhoods with positive appreciation and cash flow. I plan to invest into smaller multi-family 2-5 unit turnkey properties. Any recommendations or advice would be great!

Thank you!




Cleveland, Ohio is a great market to focus on for cash flow and specific pockets have gone up 2x and upwards of 4x in the last 5-10 years even!

Examples:

44109 (median home price went from roughly 50k to 125k in 8 years)

https://www.zillow.com/home-values/77009/cleveland-oh-44109/

44102 (median home price went from roughly 30k to 120k in 8 years)

https://www.zillow.com/home-values/77002/cleveland-oh-44102/

44106 (median home price went from roughly 100k to 200k in 8 years)

https://www.zillow.com/home-values/77006/cleveland-oh-44106/

It has the highest rents on average in all of Ohio for major cities and the median income is not even in the top 3. That creates a really nice price / rent ratio which is favorable for investors looking for cash flow. The median home price is also very low nationwide which creates a low barrier to entry. You can get solid cash-flowing single families in the 90-120k price range and duplexes in the 130-180k price range. There are cheaper one’s in D/F areas but I would be careful as those can create a laundry list of additional issues. In 2022 the rents increased 12.1% year over year which was the 3rd highest in the entire country per https://www.axios.com/local/cleveland/2023/02/14/cleveland-rent-prices.

Here are pockets I focus on for cash flow:

West side - West boulevard, Cudell, Clark-Fulton, Jefferson, Bellaire-Puritas, Old Brooklyn

East side - Fairfax, Buckeye-Shaker (the north side), Waterloo Arts District, Garfield Heights, Maple Heights, Newburgh Heights, Lee-Miles (the north side), Bedford

Here are the areas that I focus on for appreciation:

West side - Lakewood, Edgewater, Old Brooklyn, Ohio City, Tremont (above 490)

East side - Buckeye-Shaker (the north side), Waterloo Arts District, Fairfax

*I have a graded neighborhood map of these areas as well if you would like to check it out.



 @Pam Coleman

Post: Networking Opportunities in the Cleveland Area

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Welcome to BP, I am also a CLE BRRRR investor. I have never done a 1031 exchange, Since you are young try to BRRRR deals so you can keep as much properties as possible.

Post: Networking with Cleveland Investors

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Quote from @Benjamin Sulka:

Hey BP! 

I've been doing a good deal of networking in my area but I want to meet more people that have real estate in their vision and goals! 

If you're in Cleveland, and you're a real estate investor, please connect. I'd love to chat and hear about what strategies you're pursuing. 

I'm actively preparing to purchase a property to house hack in early-mid 2024. Currently saving up sufficient funds for my down payment, closing costs, and my personal reserve requirement. 

Looking forward to chatting! 


Hey Ben, I actually work for a lender so I can give you some insight and my opinion. 

1. The house hack strategy is a good way to start. You can go up to 4 units/ and live in 1 of the units. You can take the income from the other units to help qualify you. Lenders are going to want to see you DTI below 56.9 (FHA requirements)

2. Some lenders (including us) offer Down Payment Assistance. We can cover 100% of the purchase price. And even some of the closing cost! I say if your ready to buy let's get you in that house asap while rates are high and there is less demand. I believe once rates drop , the prices for houses will increase 

Post: Pad Split In Cleveland?

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Quote from @Marc Rice:
Quote from @Bailey Coleman:

Has anyone done a pad split in Cleveland Ohio? I am thinking about buying this 8 bedroom 3 bathroom house in Cle. There is a good amount of square footage and it is a single family house. Instead of converting into a multi family I was exploring other options. If I kept it as a single family, 8 bedrooms is a lot to rent it out to a regular tenant so I was thinking about doing a pad split instead. What has been your experience with pad split in the Cleveland market and would you recommend it? 

*For those of you who don't know pad split is a platform where you can rent you each room individual to tenants. They are most ideal when you have a lot of rooms 


 Is this the same as a "rooming house"?



In a pad split , the tenants share kitchen and often bathroom facilities. So yes it is the same idea but through the platform called pad split. Ideally it's for young adults that want to pay cheaper rent and rent by the room . I don't think it's as popular in Cleveland though. Considering everyone's feedback instead of renting by the room, I would either convert into a multi family or just knock down some walls to make the rooms bigger 

Post: Pad Split In Cleveland?

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Quote from @Simon Ashbaugh:
Quote from @Bailey Coleman:

Has anyone done a pad split in Cleveland Ohio? I am thinking about buying this 8 bedroom 3 bathroom house in Cle. There is a good amount of square footage and it is a single family house. Instead of converting into a multi family I was exploring other options. If I kept it as a single family, 8 bedrooms is a lot to rent it out to a regular tenant so I was thinking about doing a pad split instead. What has been your experience with pad split in the Cleveland market and would you recommend it? 

*For those of you who don't know pad split is a platform where you can rent you each room individual to tenants. They are most ideal when you have a lot of rooms 


 Where in Cleveland? I generally recommend against renting by room. It tends to draw very troublesome tenants. most of em end up as crack houses with a lot of maintenance problems and expensive turns. 


Near Edgewater. I agree this could attract troublesome tenants. On the flip side I do not think renting it to a regular long term tenant would work either as most tenants are not looking for an 8 bedroom SFR. I may look into converting it into a multi family

Post: Pad Split In Cleveland?

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Padsplit hasn't launched in Cleveland yet, so you won't be able to use their platform. You could possibly explore a similar platform, I'm not sure. 

To be honest, I don't think Padsplit would be as successful in Cleveland. It's huge in Atlanta because it's hard to find apartments in Atlanta for under $1200/month, so getting a Padsplit at $700/month is pretty attractive. But in Cleveland there are lots of places where you can get a studio for $600/month or less. (I know because I own one) So Padsplit would have to be much cheaper than that and I'm not sure it would be worth it at that point. 

Hope that helps. Happy to talk further. 


Okay thanks for the feedback, very helpful. This makes sense. Keeping an 8 bedroom SFR I believe would also be hard to rent to a long term tenant as the demand for that many bedrooms would be lower as I would image as most people do not need that many bedrooms.

Post: Pad Split In Cleveland?

Bailey ColemanPosted
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Quote from @Alfath Ahmed:
Quote from @Bailey Coleman:

Has anyone done a pad split in Cleveland Ohio? I am thinking about buying this 8 bedroom 3 bathroom house in Cle. There is a good amount of square footage and it is a single family house. Instead of converting into a multi family I was exploring other options. If I kept it as a single family, 8 bedrooms is a lot to rent it out to a regular tenant so I was thinking about doing a pad split instead. What has been your experience with pad split in the Cleveland market and would you recommend it? 

*For those of you who don't know pad split is a platform where you can rent you each room individual to tenants. They are most ideal when you have a lot of rooms 


 I would look into the Columbus market. It's known for it's strong appreciation factor, low taxes, and also because it is a land-lord friendly state.

Have you invested in the Cleveland or Columbus market before?


 I am investing in Cleveland currently. Have BRRRRed multi properties this year in Cle. I am definitely  interested in the Columbus area and would like to start in 2024 out there after I get a few more under my belt in Cle. 

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I am closing a property in Cleveland Ohio, Live in Maryland. I had opened an LLC & business bank account for in instate deal, I didn't go through it but now found a better option in Cleveland.

What is my next best step to collect rent payments, payments to property mgmt, track expenses, and pay taxes correctly? Do I use the Maryland LLC and bank account or open up an Ohio LLC, tie it to another business account, and run it that way? Or is there another way ?


You are going to want to open up an Ohio LLC. You will not be able to evict a tenant if the LLC is registered in another state. The way I am set up is I have a holding company that owns my Ohio LLC. My Ohio LLC owns all my properties in Ohio. I would hire a PM as well. One that has many connections and knows the Cle market. Let me know if you have any more questions or if you need assistance with setting up an LLC.