Cape Coral vs Port Charlotte vs North Port

[Yulia Volokhina]

Hello, 

Question for those with experience investing in these areas. Which area is better for LTR SFH, Cape Coral vs Port Charlotte vs North Port, or Punta Gorda? Which is more rent reliable, best growing, both for cash flow and long term appreciation? And lowest flood/weather risks, insurance, etc?

[Stetson Miller]

Hi @Yulia Volokhina,

All of these markets are very close to each other geographically, so you're not going to see massive differences between any of these. One thing that Cape Coral does offer over the others though is that being a much larger market, inventory will be more diverse, so you might have better luck finding a specific property type and price point. Cape Coral also offers a great supply of homes that are not in flood zones and otherwise have low storm risk, particularly with some newer builds

In terms of cash flow, single family in general is not going to be the best bet for optimizing that focus. However, Cape Coral, Fort Myers, and Lehigh Acres all offer multifamily inventory in comparable price ranges of single family homes in the other markets you mentioned, which will allow significantly higher cash flow potential

[Jeff Tumbarello]

All three of the markets are the same with little nuances. Check out Lehigh Acres as well. Feel free to reach out

[Robert Ellis]

Quote from @Yulia Volokhina:

Hello, 

Question for those with experience investing in these areas. Which area is better for LTR SFH, Cape Coral vs Port Charlotte vs North Port, or Punta Gorda? Which is more rent reliable, best growing, both for cash flow and long term appreciation? And lowest flood/weather risks, insurance, etc?

 none of them. get closer to a capital market and major city within 30 miles. all of these are too far. look at homestead or north of palm beach county, closer to tampa, etc not an hour away these are over delivered and new builds from tract builders are selling for less than 200 per sq ft right now in some of these markets rents have softened. there's no jobs or macro city that's driving these areas. these are softer markets for BTR than other ones. get more involved and directly contract with builders. miami dade county, even Orlando has better 

[John Oks]

Quote from @Yulia Volokhina:

Hello, 

Question for those with experience investing in these areas. Which area is better for LTR SFH, Cape Coral vs Port Charlotte vs North Port, or Punta Gorda? Which is more rent reliable, best growing, both for cash flow and long term appreciation? And lowest flood/weather risks, insurance, etc?

Hi Yulia,

 Best growing and less insurance is definitely North Port, Cape Coral/Port Charlotte more established better cash flow and more rent reliable. Hope this helps!.

[Yulia Volokhina]

Thank you for the insight. 

The website Businessobserverfl mentions that rental vacancy rates in Cape Coral is 15.3%. Does it sound right for the LTRs there?

[Jeff Tumbarello]

Quote from @Yulia Volokhina:

Thank you for the insight. 

The website Businessobserverfl mentions that rental vacancy rates in Cape Coral is 15.3%. Does it sound right for the LTRs there?

 It is not that high. I have pretty detailed datasets, I rarely can replicate the medias "data"

[Carleen Murone]

I agree with Jeff on the vacancy rates. I was just speaking with a property management company and he isn't having any trouble renting his units. One thing about Cape Coral is most SFH are not in gated communities so HOA's are not an issue. There are also several build-to-rent projects going on with builder financing deals snd some even offering perks like property management (even free for a period) so maintenance costs can be kept lower in the beginning years. North Port is a bit further from the projected growth boom that we will see in Cape Coral, and also Punta Gorda (airport and resort are brining in jobs and industry). Both Cape Coral and Punt Gorda, and possibly parts of Port Charlotte, will have growth of young families due to these jobs. Feel free to contact me to discuss further.

[Jeff Tumbarello]

Quote from @Carleen Murone:

I agree with Jeff on the vacancy rates. I was just speaking with a property management company and he isn't having any trouble renting his units. One thing about Cape Coral is most SFH are not in gated communities so HOA's are not an issue. There are also several build-to-rent projects going on with builder financing deals snd some even offering perks like property management (even free for a period) so maintenance costs can be kept lower in the beginning years. North Port is a bit further from the projected growth boom that we will see in Cape Coral, and also Punta Gorda (airport and resort are brining in jobs and industry). Both Cape Coral and Punt Gorda, and possibly parts of Port Charlotte, will have growth of young families due to these jobs. Feel free to contact me to discuss further.

 If you price it at the market, it rents. Many of these BTR groups are pitching higher rents to get the deals to cash flow on paper.

[Carleen Murone]

True

[Robert Ellis]

Quote from @Jeff Tumbarello:

Quote from @Carleen Murone:

I agree with Jeff on the vacancy rates. I was just speaking with a property management company and he isn't having any trouble renting his units. One thing about Cape Coral is most SFH are not in gated communities so HOA's are not an issue. There are also several build-to-rent projects going on with builder financing deals snd some even offering perks like property management (even free for a period) so maintenance costs can be kept lower in the beginning years. North Port is a bit further from the projected growth boom that we will see in Cape Coral, and also Punta Gorda (airport and resort are brining in jobs and industry). Both Cape Coral and Punt Gorda, and possibly parts of Port Charlotte, will have growth of young families due to these jobs. Feel free to contact me to discuss further.

 If you price it at the market, it rents. Many of these BTR groups are pitching higher rents to get the deals to cash flow on paper.

 and they never pencil. I looked at land and on same street there are rentals renting for 200 less than people being advertised higher I'm like wow people are going to be taken advantage of. that was in October I'm sure it's even worse now 

[Adam Bartomeo]

Cape Coral is the better of those cities for MANY reasons - age, growth, jobs, size, etc. Vacancies have gone up drastically over the past year but it isn't 15%. We do a much better job than most and we are vacancy rate is 3.3%.