I feel your pain.

Hi Brian Porter, man I feel your pain.

I want something that wont cost me a huge amount upfront- I am used to pay huge fees for HUD 223F loans (great program, just takes forever and these assets are b- assets,- anything less than a b+ is a pain to get HUD to approve4.

Now i'm more interested in remodel/addition and know the pains, pros and cons so ready for my next investment.

Adam,Brad and Ben's advice is spot on.If it's a pain to dig and find out where the downspouts go, just cut them to allow extenders to be installed.

I have had enough of the gurus, which is painful topic for me, but that's for another time.VIOLIN TIME – Break out the tissue:If I am blessed w/ a new job it will require me to be in class for about a year.

I feel your pain, but Todd Carel is 100% correct that at least you have a job.

That might give you some indication of the situation... whether you might have a potentially motivated seller or not.If you reach out by phone, just think through your your introduction/pitch ahead of time and, assuming they are open to talking to you about it, try to learn everything you can about their pain points with being landlords and their goals in general (maybe they need cash?).

I meet some, we talk, they disappear.

WillEducate they will offer $ you don't have to ask.Uncover the pain, where do they have their money now, what are they earning are they happy what would they like...Paul