While scary, I think you're absolutely correct and I probably should get into a habit of using many of those techniques.

Furthermore, it is not the use of one or two marketing techniques what will bring you more leads, it is the use of ALL what will get your business to the level you desire..

I have no such experience with this technique nor do i know if it exists but it seems like a feasible way of getting things done.

Now, obviously I can see that students are problematic renters, but I have heard some amazing landlord stories and seen some incredible living situations.

John -One of the largest and oldest in LA that I've worked with is the "Real Estate Investing Club of Los Angels" - http://www.realestateclubla.com/ - started by Phyllis Rockower.I'm sure there are many more, Los Angeles has an incredibly strong real estate investing market right now.

I have to say that's an incredible brand you have.

For example you can't get a cash-out refinance when you already have 4 financed 1-4 unit properties.A technique is to buy the property with cash from the HELOC, and then use Fannie's Delayed Financing Exception (google it) to refinance immediately after rehab.

I'm really impressed with all the marketing and creative techniques that investors use here.

I also sold all 3 of my homes using Redfin and they saved me thousands in commissions.If you've listened to all the Bigger Pockets podcasts you've heard from a couple wholesalers that shared some great techniques for finding deals.

Often no money down deals are combinations of techniques like a private lender or partner in combinations with seller financing.