And most regret it.I'll make the opposite case: it is VERY hard to screw up when buying i.e. a duplex in good condition in a desirable neighborhood and either self-manages or hire a quality PM to manage.To any new investor who is reading this: In real estate cost and risk have an inverse relationship.

If you purchase a rent ready RE investment this could be 0%, but at the opposite extreme a good brrrr can produce the now elusive infinite return (I have achieved this on most of my RE investments but believe it is very challenging in the current market to bp not be cash negative after the refi to extract the added value.I expect to make an offer this week.  

What i am seeing from the most experienced So CA RE investors is the opposite.  

Done right its exactly the opposite. 

I definitely don't think its gonna get worse from here I think the complete opposite.

For example, I would place one in the game room if it is located on the opposite end of the hallway from the bathroom.

It's the opposite.#4:  Your clock example isn't a Rule of Thumb, it's an example of facts. 

We've also encountered the opposite.

Perhaps it has something to do with the statistical average where in Australia, if you are borrowing 75% on property in the cities or suburbs, it is almost impossible to get positive cash flow ANYWHERE, whereas BP subscribers are aware that in MANY parts of the USA, the opposite is true.

Joining as a LP in a Syndications felt the right opposite to what I want, at least right now in my position.