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Conversely, if the numbers are as you say, you could rehab it, rent it and sell it as a turnkey for the $180K. 

@Ylande Blanc I will just have a sincere conversations and try to understand why is he or she thinking in a particular way.

Hey Bp'ers,  So I've put together a deal for a group of investors which will be closing on Friday 3/10 and during our conversation I learned that they would like to have the expenses such as Vacancy, Cap Ex, Maintenance etc...

., I've enjoyed our past back-and-forth debate on market cycles, and I'd be happy to meet up with you to continue the conversation if you happen to stop by the Austin area.

I have no problem disagreeing with someone but people who make personal attacks are not the type I wish to have conversations with.I wish you the best.

I called a St Louis bank and asked about commercial loans. this particular bank has exactly one: 5/20 with 25% down at 4.5% (he did not say 75% LTV and he wasn't interested in a conversation).

The difference may be that I blew through savings in two years of wholesaling and attempts to capitalize fix and flips/condo conversions.  

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I am making calls and having conversations and these pretty much feel like regular loans but with crappy rates.