Idk, but I just bought Dolf De Roos book "Real Estate Riches" and fell in love with real estate and have been hard core reading about it ever since.

Wouldn't make me quit being a landlord, but that is quite hard-core. 

I would make sure you are going hard core on your tenant screening (http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2013/01/27/tenant-screening/ and sitting down with tenants to go over the lease when they sign.

You gotta know your market place...For example... we mail hard-core... that's our bread and butter... so I know a thing or two...Plus...

But even in their heyday when there was insane cash flow, I never felt comfortable with investing there because Vegas is built primarily with only one main industry- entertainment- which is affected hardcore by recessions and crashes.Hope that's a start for some help?

I get out my handy dandy hardcore calculator and figure out that if I did a 10yr loan at 5% with them I could offer $163K (rounded) and get a PV of $100K.Using the formula FV = PV * (1 + r)^nSo in this case I want a PV of $100K (The cash offer) with an interest rate of 5% (r) and a period of 10 years (n).That seems insanely high to me to pay as a premium for a property for fairly unamazing terms.I assume I am missing something fundamental in structuring the offers.

If not, then you probably do have some hardcore troublemakers and you want to end that early.

great tip thank you -- it was built in 02any insight on pricing/how serious i should take this w/ a hardcore drywall guy vs. some guys who scrape rooms for $50/room?

My handyman stopped by a couple of times for repairs and gave me updates on what he saw; however, with me needing to notify the tenants before being able to enter the house the tenants were able to conceal what I suspected but couldn't find any hard core proof.

I don't know how those hard core people have the stamina, or the time, for all that networking.