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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 22 posts and replied 1212 times.

Post: Fix and flipping tax implications.

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Quote from @Clay Teegarden:

Hello all! 

I currently have 2 single family rentals but am looking to delve in to fix and flipping as a way to supplement or hopefully replace my W2 income. 

I have 2 questions as it relates to taxes for fix and flipping. First, how does everyone handle the capital gains on a rehab project? I feel like I e read before that 25% of net profit is a good rule of thumb to set aside for those taxes, but what have you all found to be true? 

Second, if youre doing fix and flipping in addition to your W2 income, how does that factor in to your normal taxable income from your W2? Should you set aside additional money aside from capital gains to pay for the income tax increase if you make a profit on a property? 

Thank you in advance to any who reply, it’s appreciated! 


 Hey Clay, 

When it comes to fix and flipping, the profits from the sale of a property are generally taxed as ordinary income rather than capital gains, especially if the property was held for less than a year. Setting aside 25% of your net profit is a reasonable estimate for taxes, but the actual amount depends on your overall tax bracket. Since flipping income is considered active income, it combines with your W2 earnings and can push you into a higher tax bracket, so it's important to set aside funds for both the increase in income tax and self-employment taxes. 

Post: Accounting advise: NC, SC and IL

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Hey Todd,

It sounds like you're dealing with a complex combination of tax situations across multiple states. First, it's important to note that CPAs do not need to be licensed in all three states (South Carolina, North Carolina, and Illinois) to help with your personal and business taxes. CPAs can typically practice across state lines as long as they're in good standing with their licensing board. However, some accountants may choose not to handle taxes for states they aren't familiar with or aren't set up to manage. The fact that many tax professionals are responding with "not taking new clients" likely has more to do with their workload—especially given the upcoming personal tax filing deadline for clients on extension—than with licensing issues.

If you're struggling to find someone locally, hiring an Illinois-based CPA to handle your real estate business taxes and doing your personal taxes yourself could be a reasonable option. TurboTax can handle both personal and business taxes, including depreciation and other tax benefits, but it may not offer the same personalized advice you'd get from a real estate focused accountant. I'd recommend reaching out to folks offering value in forums and seeing if they're accepting new clients, as that might yield better results. Best of luck! 

Post: How to prove that an activity performed was "material participation" in real estate

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Quote from @Sean Graham:
Quote from @Account Closed:

Hey Marc, 
When tracking your real estate activities for STR management, particularly to prove material participation, it's important to clearly document each task you perform. For example, if you had a 1-hour conversation with a general contractor (GC) about renovations, you can simply summarize this in your activity log. Include the date, duration, and a brief summary of what was discussed (e.g., "Discussed renovation plans with GC for STR property"). While it's not required to take a snapshot of the phone call, you can keep call logs or email exchanges as backup for extra support if needed. The key is to be detailed and consistent in your logging.

For our clients, we provide a custom spreadsheet to help track activities more effectively. It’s designed to capture all relevant details, including hours worked, descriptions of tasks, and the specific nature of the involvement. However, only the time you personally spend on managing or coordinating the property counts. If the GC is performing work on the property, you can only log the time spent communicating with the GC or overseeing the project—not the hours they work independently on your behalf. This ensures you accurately reflect your active involvement in managing the STR.

@Marc Shin this is a good answer. Also keeping a calendar is great backup.  


Thank you for saying so, Sean!

Post: Search for tax specialist for REI

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Quote from @Tanya Maslach:
Quote from @Account Closed:

Hey Tanya, 

That sounds about right, I know folks that can do it for slightly cheaper but around that range is fair. Are they giving you advisory as well or just tax prep? 


 Hi Zachary:  It's just tax prep.  Not advisory.  (Which seems odd, because if someone is actively preparing the taxes for us, it seems odd that they would SEE something in that prep, and NOT prepare the taxes in a more advantageous way for their customers.

But what do i know? I'm the one looking for a specialist.  ;-)


Fair enough Tanya, definitely seems high priced for just the tax prep. I thought it was including advisory as well.

Post: Search for tax specialist for REI

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Hey Tanya, 

That sounds about right, I know folks that can do it for slightly cheaper but around that range is fair. Are they giving you advisory as well or just tax prep? 

Post: Taxes/ question for accounants

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Quote from @Gavin Wynn:

Hey, This is a unique situation, I purchased my second property in June 2024, a single-family home that used to be a duplex, and is still zoned as a duplex ( remains 2 addresses). I am converting this back to a duplex, going to live in one half and rent out the other. Do I have to complete the separation of units by January 1st to write off half of my closing costs/other expenses? Or can I still write off the closing cost in 2026 if I am not done with the separation by January 1st, 2025? This might be a stupid question but thanks in advance!


 Hey Gavin, 

You don’t need to complete the separation by January 1st, 2025, to eventually write off the rental portion of your closing costs and other expenses, but you can only start deducting them once the rental portion of the property is officially "in service," meaning ready for tenants and actively marketed. If the separation is not done until 2026, you can still write off the portion of closing costs allocated to the rental unit at that time, but they would likely need to be amortized over the life of the loan. Expenses related to the personal-use portion where you live won’t be deductible for rental purposes.

Post: Looking for a CPA to do our taxes by 10/15

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Quote from @Jessica Lamont:

We are looking for a knowledgeable CPA familiar with real estate investments that would be able to do our taxes by October 15th. Thank you! Our llc is in AZ. We live in NV. 


 Hey Jessica, as accountants, we can't self-promote on the forum. I'll say that finding an accountant by the 15th is going to be very difficult. Depending on how complex your situation is, it still may be possible, however unlikely. I'd reach out to the folks in the forum providing value who are active and seeing if they're accepting new clients. Best of luck!

Post: Taxes/ question for accounants

Account ClosedPosted
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Quote from @Gavin Wynn:

Hey, This is a unique situation, I purchased my second property in June 2024, a single-family home that used to be a duplex, and is still zoned as a duplex ( remains 2 addresses). I am converting this back to a duplex, going to live in one half and rent out the other. Do I have to complete the separation of units by January 1st to write off half of my closing costs/other expenses? Or can I still write off the closing cost in 2026 if I am not done with the separation by January 1st, 2025? This might be a stupid question but thanks in advance!


Hey Gavin, 
It's not a stupid question at all—you're asking a very valid one! In general, the IRS allows you to deduct certain expenses, including closing costs, in the year the property is placed in service as a rental. If you haven't fully separated the units and started renting one out by January 1, 2025, the property won't yet be considered "in service" for tax purposes. As a result, you wouldn't be able to deduct the rental portion of closing costs or other related expenses until the rental unit is fully ready for tenants. The key is when the property is available and actively marketed for rent.

If the separation isn't completed until 2026, you could still deduct the portion of closing costs allocated to the rental unit at that time. These costs would need to be amortized over the life of the loan or treated as capitalized expenses. The timing of when you can take deductions depends on when the rental portion of the property becomes available for rent, not necessarily when you incurred the costs. Keep in mind that personal-use portions, like the half you live in, won't be deductible for rental purposes.

Post: Claiming RE Professional Status as a W-2 Employee

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Quote from @Marc Lock:

I know this is a difficult claim and has been posted before but I haven't seen any posts with the following specifics:

Taxpayer (aka TP) is a W-2 employee for real estate company that develops and owns/operates mostly multifamily and some commercial spaces. 

TP spends 100% of their time in the asset management of these properties (not property management).

TP has recently invested personally in these deals and owns at least 5% of Property A. The other deals TP invested in are less than 5% ownership. TP spends the most time on Property A of all the properties. Is he eligible to claim real estate professional status?

If he is not eligible to claim REP status, is he eligible to claim he materially participates in the deals (even the ones with <5% ownership)? Is there even any benefit to that if all the activity is line 2 rental re income/loss on the K-1?


 Hey Marc, 

Claiming Real Estate Professional Status (REPS) for a taxpayer (TP) who is a W-2 employee and involved in asset management is indeed challenging. To qualify for REPS, the taxpayer must spend more than 750 hours per year in real estate trades or businesses in which they materially participate, and more than half of their total working hours must be spent in real estate activities. Asset management, though closely related to real estate, is typically considered more strategic and financial in nature rather than direct involvement in day-to-day property operations. The IRS tends to scrutinize W-2 employees claiming REPS, and there is only one tax court case I know of where a W-2 employee qualified. In that case, the taxpayer had individuals testify to his character and work in court, which is an unusual scenario and highlights the difficulty of making such a claim.

If the TP cannot qualify for REPS, they may still be eligible to claim material participation in the deals, even with less than 5% ownership in some of them. Material participation requires meeting certain tests, such as spending 100 hours or more on the activity and participating more than anyone else. However, if all the activity generates passive rental income (line 2 of the K-1), there may not be significant benefits to claiming material participation. Without REPS, the passive losses from these rental activities may still be subject to passive activity loss limitations, so it may not yield any meaningful tax advantage.

Post: How to prove that an activity performed was "material participation" in real estate

Account ClosedPosted
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  • San Diego, CA
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Hey Marc, 
When tracking your real estate activities for STR management, particularly to prove material participation, it's important to clearly document each task you perform. For example, if you had a 1-hour conversation with a general contractor (GC) about renovations, you can simply summarize this in your activity log. Include the date, duration, and a brief summary of what was discussed (e.g., "Discussed renovation plans with GC for STR property"). While it's not required to take a snapshot of the phone call, you can keep call logs or email exchanges as backup for extra support if needed. The key is to be detailed and consistent in your logging.

For our clients, we provide a custom spreadsheet to help track activities more effectively. It’s designed to capture all relevant details, including hours worked, descriptions of tasks, and the specific nature of the involvement. However, only the time you personally spend on managing or coordinating the property counts. If the GC is performing work on the property, you can only log the time spent communicating with the GC or overseeing the project—not the hours they work independently on your behalf. This ensures you accurately reflect your active involvement in managing the STR.