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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 22 posts and replied 1212 times.

Post: Cash out refi from one property to pay off a second property

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Hey @Ujwal Kolli,

When you do a cash-out refinance on one rental property to pay off the mortgage on another, the interest tracing rules generally allow the interest to be deductible if the loan proceeds are used for business purposes, like paying off another rental. So, if you use the refinanced funds from the higher-value California property to pay off the mortgage on a Texas or Utah rental, the interest on the new loan should still be deductible because the funds are being used for your rental business.

Post: STR to LTR - is it possible?

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Quote from @Kristin Solbach:

Thanks to everyone that joined the conversation... ahhh, as always lots of conflicting information but that was to be expected. 

@Michael Baum, I did like the area too and had a good time there. The sandbags also concerned me and I would be looking in other parts of town for sure. Sedona is pretty but also even more expensive, so I didn't even consider it. Do you have any insight on the Boise area or other ID areas? We did visit Boise earlier this year (its driving distance from my inlaws which makes it nice) and really liked it there too. Clean, friendly, activity rich and lots of employment driving growth as far as I found. 

And yes, @Andrew Steffens, @Ashish Acharya, @Account Closed, I would not want to buy an STR that cant cover for itself as an LTR. I would not feel comfotable with that. I truly appreciate your insight on the HELOC use with the possibility to deduct the interest. Saving those taxes could really help us make the initial investment.

@Nicholas L., I truly would be interested in giving STR a shot but I do worry about being far away from it as well as new regulations being put into place (like here where we live they are in the process of pretty much eliminating any STRs completely). The main reason why I would want to ensure it can cover itself as an LTR in case. 

So much to learn, so much to think about... I appreciate all the food for thought! Kristin

Of course happy to help. Always make sure you have a backup plan - it's never a plan A or bust with real estate. We need to have multiple exit strategies to reduce our risk.

Post: STR to LTR - is it possible?

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Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Eric Gerakos:

I would never take real estate investing advice from a “tax advisor.” Plenty of STRs are failing now. Best of luck to you.


 The logic is so *** backwards.

You buy real estate for the investment benefits, and store of value, etc. You don't buy it for a designated hospitality purpose. 


 100% agree here. You should never invest just for tax benefits. You should only invest if that's the strategy you're interested in doing, and the tax benefits are icing on the cake. This is coming from a tax advisor, btw - not all of us are like that.

Post: Negotiations When Purchasing Existing STR

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Quote from @Dina Schmid:
Quote from @Account Closed:

Hey Dina, 

The extensive repairs discovered during inspection could ultimately provide a tax benefit by increasing the depreciable basis of the property. Major issues like foundation work, bathroom renovations, and deck repairs are considered capital improvements, which can be depreciated over time, allowing you to offset a significant portion of your rental income with those deductions. While the repairs will temporarily affect rental operations, the long-term tax advantages from depreciation could help recover some of the initial financial outlay.

In terms of negotiations, it would be wise to push for a larger price reduction instead of accepting a cashier's check, given the magnitude of the repairs and the expected loss of rental income during the downtime. You can strengthen your position by documenting the repair estimates and the potential loss of income due to the disruption in bookings. Additionally, consider negotiating the ability to delay or cancel some bookings to complete the necessary work sooner, avoiding further damage.

 Thanks Zachary. You presented a perspective I had completely overlooked.

Would you still recommend negotiating a lower purchase price vs cashier's check on closing given that we're in a higher income tax bracket and thus capital gains tax could come into play in the future? 

Hey Dina, while I don't know the full story, negotiating a lower purchase price can't hurt.

Post: Looking for guidance on STR

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Quote from @Kyle Jacques:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Kyle Jacques:

We have had our STR for almost a year now . We have some bookings but there a definitely massive gaps in calendar . We are right near a ski mountain and mountain biking trails . I recently created an IG page for property but not sure how to leverage that to attract more guests . I would like to at least break even since we are getting some really nice appreciation and my family likes to go there for vacations. Where can i go or who can i talk to help me better manage STR so we can ultimately get another one .


 Hey Kyle, 

Have you heard of STR Nation? That's a really great group about short-term rental management. I'm sure they could give you a few ideas.


 I have not heard about them, is it on Bigger Pockets? 


I don't think so, but they're a big event that gets hosted in multiple cities every year. Worth looking up 'STR Nation' on Google and checking it out.

Post: Looking for a CPA who is knowledgable in RE and business (cost seg, business etc)

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Quote from @Vivek Shah:

I'm looking for a CPA or firm that is knowledgable in RE taxes. Specifically cost seg., bonus depreciation, 1099 write offs for businesses etc. It's frustrating to interview CPAs where you have to teach them about certain loopholes and worry on their confidence to get the job done correctly. Any recommendations? I live in Charlotte, NC but am open to anywhere.

Thanks in advance.

Hey Vivek,

Given that we are real estate-focused accounts on Bigger Pockets, we are not allowed to self-promote in the Tax, SDIRAs,and Cost Segregation forum as it's against the forum rules.

I suggest you reach out to people directly via DM who are providing value in the forum and seeing if they're accepting clients. Best of luck.

Post: UBIT Implications for Preferred Equity Investment

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Quote from @Michael Politi:

I am considering investing in a Preferred Equity Syndication. The pref equity would pay out a 7% (annualized) quarterly distribution and a 7% back end return when the pref equity capital is returned. The capital stack is approx 70% debt, 5% pref equity and 25% common equity. If I utilize qualified funds would this investment be subject to UBIT re UDFI? I know a common equity investment would be subject to UBIT but since there is no back end upside I wasn't sure if the pref equity would be viewed as a loan?


Hey Michael, 

My understanding is in a preferred equity syndication, utilizing qualified funds such as those from an IRA or 401(k) can trigger Unrelated Business Income Tax (UBIT) when the investment generates Unrelated Debt-Financed Income (UDFI). UDFI typically arises when debt is used to acquire or improve income-producing property, and the proportion of income related to the debt can be subject to UBIT. In this case, since the capital stack includes 70% debt, it's likely that some portion of the income generated by the preferred equity investment could be attributable to UDFI, potentially triggering UBIT.

However, the preferred equity in your scenario may be treated differently from common equity, especially since there is no upside participation beyond the fixed return. Preferred equity is often structured to resemble a loan in that it provides fixed payments and a return of capital, rather than a share of profits, which could reduce its exposure to UBIT. The specific tax treatment would depend on how the preferred equity is structured in the syndication and whether it qualifies as debt-like equity or retains characteristics of a typical equity investment.

Post: Tax Exemptions, LLC Structure, and Depreciation for Foreign STR Properties

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Hey @Miguel Alvarado

Welcome to the community, Miguel! It's great that you're exploring the world of short-term rentals (STRs) abroad and thinking about tax efficiency right from the start. While many of the U.S. tax benefits, like using accelerated depreciation to offset W-2 income, are fantastic for domestic properties, they don't always apply the same way to foreign properties. For instance, foreign real estate depreciation is generally spread over 40 years, which differs from the faster schedules used in the U.S., and the ability to offset W-2 income may have limitations due to the passive activity loss rules. In terms of structuring ownership, many investors choose to keep foreign properties under a U.S.-based LLC for simplicity, but forming a local LLC in the country of the property might offer legal or tax advantages specific to that location. Consulting with an international tax expert would help you understand the best way to maximize your depreciation and ensure compliance across borders. Looking forward to seeing how your journey progresses!

Post: STR to LTR - is it possible?

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Quote from @Kristin Solbach:

First time investor here that is feeling pretty stuck.. we want to get started in one way or the other with lot of different approaches and advice out there. We hired a tax advisor and were told to get an STR this year to help offset our taxes with the STR loophole... One Cost Segregation Study is included in our package with the Tax team as well and the tax savings would actually help us to get started investing of course. We only have 30-40K down payment and are hesitant about 2 things:

1) Investing into a property purely for STR... we would want to ensure it can still pay for itself as an LTR if need be PLUS ideally we would not invest more than 350-400K. Is there a market out there in which this could work?

2) Using our HELOC to supplement the down payment.. we do have some bonus payments coming at the end of the year we could pay it down plus the tax savings could help us pay it off, so maybe it would be worth it in the end?

Has anyone invested in STR for the loophole reason? Any advice? Any good and bad experiences welcome. 
Thanks a million, Kristin


 Hey Kristin, 

Finding a property that works as both a short-term rental (STR) and a long-term rental (LTR) is a smart approach, especially as market conditions can change. It's essential to research areas where both strategies can perform well, ensuring the property pays for itself in either scenario. With a $350-400K budget and your $30-40K down payment, there are markets where this could work, but it might require a bit of flexibility in location. Using your HELOC to supplement the down payment could be a good option, particularly if you expect to pay it down with bonus payments at year-end. In addition, the tax savings from the STR loophole and the Cost Segregation Study could help accelerate your paydown of the HELOC and improve your overall cash flow. Just be sure to carefully consider the financing costs and make sure your STR income can comfortably cover them.

Post: Looking for guidance on STR

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Quote from @Kyle Jacques:

We have had our STR for almost a year now . We have some bookings but there a definitely massive gaps in calendar . We are right near a ski mountain and mountain biking trails . I recently created an IG page for property but not sure how to leverage that to attract more guests . I would like to at least break even since we are getting some really nice appreciation and my family likes to go there for vacations. Where can i go or who can i talk to help me better manage STR so we can ultimately get another one .


 Hey Kyle, 

Have you heard of STR Nation? That's a really great group about short-term rental management. I'm sure they could give you a few ideas.