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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 22 posts and replied 1212 times.

Post: I’m looking for a bank which offers non-recourse loans

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Hey Brad, given that this is the Tax, SD, IRA, and Cost Segregation forum, banks can't promote themselves as that is against forum rules. I highly suggest you post your request in the classifieds, you may have better results

Post: Buying a property in 2025 - Bonus Depreciation?

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Quote from @Michael Plaks:
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I'm familiar with concept and benefits of bonus depreciation but I'm not sure where the current law stands and the bill that was floating around congress. Any insight on this front?

No idea where one of the other posters got an idea about bonus depreciation "jumping back" to 100%. I'd love for that to happen, but I have not seen any indications of this development. For all practical purposes, 100% bonus is dead, as far as I know.

Depreciation, bonus or regular, starts when the property is placed in service, not when purchased and not when cost seg is done. So if your property is not placed in service until 2025, then your bonus will be under 2025 rules, i.e. 40%. In 2024, it is 60%.

You may also have an option of applying a different method (Section 179) that can give you 100% on some of the cost segregated components, but this has its own drawbacks and complications, so it needs to be discussed with your accountant beforehand.

Also, have your accountant estimate your potential tax savings before ordering cost seg. Yes, cost seg companies provide free estimates, however these estimates are often overly optimistic. 
Indeed, sadly I agree with Michael on this one. I'd love for it to jump back to 100% bonus depreciation as much as the next guy, believe me, but I think it's dead. They even tried to pass it earlier this year and it didn't get through, so we'll see.

Post: CPA in Austin/Round Rock

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Hey Magda, as accountants on BiggerPockets, we're not allowed to self-promote (that's against the forum rules). I'd highly encourage you to reach out to folks providing value to other people in the forums and see if they're accepting clients at this time. Best of luck.

Post: Land Value for Depreciation

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Hey Patrick, 

Please keep in mind that land itself isn't depreciable. To determine the land value for depreciation purposes, you can use fair market value instead of the county's assessment if it's unreasonably high. In your case, with land selling for $8,500, $10,000, and $29,000 in the area, it’s reasonable to use these comparables to allocate the land value. You can average the amounts or use the higher $29,000 figure if it reflects market conditions, as long as you document your methodology and provide evidence, such as sales data or an appraisal. This approach maximizes the building value for depreciation while remaining defensible to the IRS, minimizing the risk of flags.

* This is not tax advice

Post: SD Roth IRA Investing In Syndication - Transfer Depreciation?

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Quote from @Kevin Sobilo:

I'm just looking forward to the future when I may wish to invest in a syndication through a Roth IRA.

Correct me if I'm wrong but since the Roth IRA has no tax liability, the depreciation deduction is basically lost.

I'm curious, is there a way in a syndication to shift that depreciation that is of no use to me to another partner who can take advantage of it? If so, is there a way to get some compensation for giving them this depreciation? 


 Hey Kevin, 

You're correct that in a Roth IRA, the tax advantages of depreciation, such as offsetting taxable income, are effectively lost since the account itself is tax-free. Depreciation is valuable to investors with taxable income, but in a Roth IRA, any income or gains are already shielded from taxes, so the benefit of depreciation deductions isn't needed.

As for shifting depreciation to another partner in a syndication, the IRS generally does not allow the reallocation of depreciation solely based on which partner can better utilize it. Depreciation is typically allocated according to the ownership percentages outlined in the partnership or syndication agreement, which are set in advance and follow certain rules under the tax code.

However, some syndication structures can be designed with different classes of partners or special allocations, but these arrangements are subject to complex tax rules, such as the "substantial economic effect" rule under Section 704(b) of the Internal Revenue Code. It's essential that any such allocations are supported by actual economic arrangements, not just for tax purposes.

As for compensation, it's theoretically possible to negotiate a different economic arrangement within a syndication if another investor finds the depreciation valuable and you don't need it due to the tax-exempt status of your Roth IRA. However, structuring this in a way that complies with tax law would likely require expert legal and tax guidance, as it involves partnership agreements and IRS regulations.

Post: Buying a property in 2025 - Bonus Depreciation?

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Hey Spencer, 

As of 2024, bonus depreciation is still available at 60%, but it is set to decrease to 40% in 2025, with further reductions planned for future years unless Congress takes action to extend or change the law. There was a bill in Congress aiming to extend or modify the bonus depreciation provisions, but no definitive changes have passed yet. To prepare for maximizing bonus depreciation or conducting a cost segregation study, you can begin gathering detailed records of the property's assets and improvements, coordinate with a cost segregation specialist early, and consider any renovations or purchases of eligible equipment to align with tax strategies that take full advantage of the current bonus depreciation rates before they phase out.

Post: Help with understanding appreciate

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Quote from @Felicia West:
Thank you, Zachary for your very thorough explanation.

Quote from @Account Closed:

Hey Felicia, 

At a high level you’re correct that when you and your husband’s income exceeds certain thresholds (over $150,000), passive losses from rental properties, including depreciation, can’t offset your W-2 income unless you or your spouse qualify as a Real Estate Professional (REPS). However, even if you can’t use the depreciation to offset your W-2 income, you can still use it to offset rental income. Depreciation helps reduce the taxable rental profit, potentially bringing it to zero or even creating a loss, which can carry forward to offset future rental income or other capital gains.

For high wage earners, other tax strategies could include leveraging cost segregation studies to accelerate depreciation on rental properties through bonus depreciation, taking advantage of tax-deferred exchanges (like a 1031 exchange), or maximizing deductions related to property expenses (mortgage interest, property taxes, insurance, repairs, etc.). If you do eventually qualify for REPS, you can use real estate losses (including depreciation) to offset your W-2 income, which can lead to significant tax savings.



Of course Felicia, more than happy to help.

Post: Cost seg depreciation recapture model

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Quote from @William C.:
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Hey Nathaniel, 

In this scenario, when selling the property for $800k, depreciation recapture would be a key consideration. The cost basis is the $700k purchase price plus $25k in renovations, totaling $725k. The cost segregation study generated $80k in passive losses, meaning a portion of that would be recaptured as ordinary income (at a 25% federal rate). The difference between the sales price ($800k) and the adjusted cost basis ($725k minus $80k of accelerated depreciation) is $155k. The $80k of depreciation recapture will be taxed at 25%, and the remaining $75k capital gain will be taxed at the capital gains rate (likely 15-20%). Your combined personal tax rate of 30% could apply to state and federal taxes depending on jurisdiction. A 1031 exchange could defer both capital gains and depreciation recapture taxes if you reinvest in another like-kind property. Depending on if this is your primary residence or not can alter the strategy but that's the gist 


 This is great (and fast!). Thanks for taking the time. Not a personal residence for us. We like having a full handle on all scenarios. #1 we aim to buy and hold forever. #2 we like the future potential for 1031. #3 would be selling the property and taking the tax hit. This could happen in an emergency scenario so it is good to know what the numbers look like.

How do you account for depreciation from the cost seg that was offset by rental income cash flow over time?

In the event of a sale, are you able to subtract realtor fees and other sale fees from the net gain of the sale?

Hey Nathaniel, no worries, happy to help. That is a great question. Depreciation is going to still be offsetting cash flow quite a bit - when you accelerate depreciation, it doesn't technically do absolutely every depreciation item in year one, so there still is going to be quite a bit of depreciation to offset your cash flow.


On top of all of this, the tax benefits largely are going to come in year one to offset your income. If you are a buy-and-hold investor, the strategy is to try to buy one or even two properties a year (or every other year or every few years) to give you enough depreciation to carry you over to the next property that's going to give you that depreciation wave to save you money the entire time. One day you wake up 20 years later with a big tax-deffered portfolio.

Post: Cost seg depreciation recapture model

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Hey Nathaniel, 

In this scenario, when selling the property for $800k, depreciation recapture would be a key consideration. The cost basis is the $700k purchase price plus $25k in renovations, totaling $725k. The cost segregation study generated $80k in passive losses, meaning a portion of that would be recaptured as ordinary income (at a 25% federal rate). The difference between the sales price ($800k) and the adjusted cost basis ($725k minus $80k of accelerated depreciation) is $155k. The $80k of depreciation recapture will be taxed at 25%, and the remaining $75k capital gain will be taxed at the capital gains rate (likely 15-20%). Your combined personal tax rate of 30% could apply to state and federal taxes depending on jurisdiction. A 1031 exchange could defer both capital gains and depreciation recapture taxes if you reinvest in another like-kind property. Depending on if this is your primary residence or not can alter the strategy but that's the gist. Also keep in mind the basis to deprecate will likely be lower as land value would need to be considered 

Post: tax hike worth appealing?

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Hey Jeff, this definitely looks like something worth inspecting as a 2.5x is quite large. I would recommend reaching out to a local real estate attorney for the best advice.