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All Forum Posts by: Yu Liu

Yu Liu has started 11 posts and replied 249 times.

Post: Group consensus on a deal

Yu LiuPosted
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  • Tallahassee
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Kissimmee is the most competitive STR market in the USA so unless that property can beat the 100 nearest properties near you with regard to design, finishes, amenities, etc I would stay very cautious.

I do not mean to scare you but just hoping you quadruple check and confirm your numbers as I know a lot of people struggling in that market. Good luck!

Post: How skewed is AirDNA???

Yu LiuPosted
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  • Tallahassee
  • Posts 249
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AirDNA has the best data out of all the well known ones out there. With that said, they also have a lot of bad data. The best way to filter out the bad data is to do what Avery Carl calls "the enemy method" where you go on airbnb and look at the surrounding properties over it, look at their reviews and their ADR and their future occupancy to make sure it's in line with what Airdna projects it to be. 

So just to recap, my method is to:

1. Look at airdna for the property

2. use enemy method to confirm the property is good data

Post: Looking for Austin home to do STR before end of year

Yu LiuPosted
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  • Tallahassee
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I assume you're just trying to buy one to off-set taxes? Not sure how it applies if you buy at this point of the year and did such little time with it. 


That's the main goal to buy by the end of the year but it still needs to be a good deal, can't just be any random deal that doesnt work. And from what I was told, as long as you can spend 100 hours and more than anyone else to get it set up and it was rented as a short term rental (on average less than 7 days) it qualifies. 

Meaning, the minute I close, we spend a week or 10 days there documenting that we are setting it up (10 hours a day would be 10 days) and book it out to one guest for one day, it would qualify for us to take it for 2023. 


 That's such a short sighted reason to get an airbnb in a highly volatile hospitality segment. I assume you come equipped with significant reserves. I opt for oil wells investing before that for tax offsets.


 Well, we were looking in Austin as one potential market but could be somewhere or something else. How do oil wells investing work? and what's the tax benefits of that? Would love to learn more


 Direct participation programs-- Kind of like a syndication for oil & wells. Goes in as an LP and you get a 50-100% tax deduction. Higher mins($250k is lowest I've seen). Then you can do working interest if you can afford to acquire one(way higher, think $10MM++), huge tax deductions there too.

This objective of you seems like a CPA told you to go buy a STR to off-set taxes. And you looked at markets and said oh Austin sounds cool.


 Interesting, guess I need to consider oil wells in the future then. 

And correct, most of my STRs are in FL but my partner has an affinity to Austin which is the reason we are looking there first and thought I would give BP a check to see if there's a possibility there. 

Post: Looking for Austin home to do STR before end of year

Yu LiuPosted
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  • Tallahassee
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Thank you @Nate Meeker, it was more so just an example.

From a math perspective, 1 day with 1 stay, average is still 1 day so I don't see it being an issue but I agree to stay on the cautious side and try to do min two stays with 1 day or something. 

Post: Staging or furnishing med term rental

Yu LiuPosted
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  • Tallahassee
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Agreed with Allen. You can find interior designers that can design and furnish your properties but like Allen mentioned, it's not cheap. 

Personally, I've just flown out, got a car and set it up with me and a couple of helpers I hire for like $15-$20 an hour in setting up the furnishings. 

Post: Most profitable Airbnb: Indio or Palm Springs?

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I have a partner that has a property in Indio. Because it's the desert, a pool is a must. From what I've seen, the best properties with the nicest pools, design and entertainment amenities crushes it there.

My partner is in the midst of building their pool now, they were not doing too well before so this hopes to turn it around

Post: Airbnb Arbitrage as a stepping stone into STR

Yu LiuPosted
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  • Tallahassee
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I think it's a great way to start but obviously very market dependent. 

Depending on your personality type, I would also recommend partnering with someone more experienced or hiring someone to coach you through every step of it. Happy to provide free advice if you have any specific questions!

You can also take advantage of 12 month 0% business credit cards to help you furnish the properties so you have your 19K for first month's rent, deposit and any extra expenses as a buffer. 

Hope that helps!

Agreed with what Michael said. Look into Facebook groups: couple of them that come to mind is Build Short Term Rental Wealth, Mid term rentals with Jesse Vasquez, Airbnbesties (Rob's group). 

There's probably some local real estate groups that might be helpful too!

Post: Looking for Austin home to do STR before end of year

Yu LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Tallahassee
  • Posts 249
  • Votes 93
Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Yu Liu:
Quote from @V.G Jason:

I assume you're just trying to buy one to off-set taxes? Not sure how it applies if you buy at this point of the year and did such little time with it. 


That's the main goal to buy by the end of the year but it still needs to be a good deal, can't just be any random deal that doesnt work. And from what I was told, as long as you can spend 100 hours and more than anyone else to get it set up and it was rented as a short term rental (on average less than 7 days) it qualifies. 

Meaning, the minute I close, we spend a week or 10 days there documenting that we are setting it up (10 hours a day would be 10 days) and book it out to one guest for one day, it would qualify for us to take it for 2023. 


 That's such a short sighted reason to get an airbnb in a highly volatile hospitality segment. I assume you come equipped with significant reserves. I opt for oil wells investing before that for tax offsets.


 Well, we were looking in Austin as one potential market but could be somewhere or something else. How do oil wells investing work? and what's the tax benefits of that? Would love to learn more

Post: Looking for Austin home to do STR before end of year

Yu LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Tallahassee
  • Posts 249
  • Votes 93
Quote from @V.G Jason:

I assume you're just trying to buy one to off-set taxes? Not sure how it applies if you buy at this point of the year and did such little time with it. 


That's the main goal to buy by the end of the year but it still needs to be a good deal, can't just be any random deal that doesnt work. And from what I was told, as long as you can spend 100 hours and more than anyone else to get it set up and it was rented as a short term rental (on average less than 7 days) it qualifies. 

Meaning, the minute I close, we spend a week or 10 days there documenting that we are setting it up (10 hours a day would be 10 days) and book it out to one guest for one day, it would qualify for us to take it for 2023.