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All Forum Posts by: Michael Watts

Michael Watts has started 15 posts and replied 70 times.

Post: Alabama Tax Lien Investing: Gap Years

Michael WattsPosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, AL
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 29

Hello Mrs Evan. Will Sally have to buy John 2020 lien or will it be an option?  If she don’t buy John 2020 will she be able to use her first right refusal to obtain 2024?  Thank you for all you do

Quote from @Denise Evans:

Largely the problems have been satisfying judges that all the due process requirements have been met to protect the rights of defendants. It requires RIGOROUS adherence to the statutory requirements and also erring on the side of caution when in doubt.  By that last statement, I mean that if a plaintiff THINKS someone  MIGHT have redemption rights (such as an adverse possessor) they should be included in the lawsuit as defendants. Then, such persons can prove to the judge they have redemption rights, or not, as the case might be. But, at least they are before the court from the very beginning. 

Some of the problems have been sloppy drafting.  Alabama has had a "notice pleading" system for many years. In other words, if a defendant can sort of figure out why they are being sued, from reading the complaint, that is enough.  The Alabama Supreme Court has been looking for a test case so they can pivot to more rigorous pleading standards.  I think many circuit court judges know that, and they are already tightening up on pleadings requirements, especially in judicial foreclosure lawsuits. From a due process standpoint, it is essential that defendants truly understand why they are being sued and what their rights are.  If I crash into your car with my car, and you sue me, I know why you are doing that.  With judicial foreclosures, it is not so clear.

Sometimes, the guardian ad litem appointed by the court must continuously ask the plaintiff's lawyer for information required by law but not voluntarily included in the initial pleadings package. It causes delays.

I am preparing a Complaint package and checklists for the new system that will go into effect on October 1, 2024.  I think it will help speed things up.

I remember taking your class and you were talking about knowing the different from a vacant house and an abandoned house. I would think a owner of vacant house would request there house would go to an auction when they don’t have the money to redeem in a foreclosure lawsuit but with an abandoned house that going through a foreclosure suit and can’t find the owner or any with the right to redeem and having to be represented by a guardian ad litem. Will the guardian ad litem be able to request the house go to auction?  I always tried to  invest in abandoned houses. If I did have a vacant house even with the old system, I always tried to work with the owner when they wanted to redeem. I even waited to get the deed before I made any improvements so it wouldn’t be too hard for an owner to redeem a vacant house. So i guest
 going forward knowing the different between vacant and abandoned houses going to be very important for investors trying to get the property. Thank you Denise 

Post: Tax Lien Foreclosure Action - Multiple Lienholders - Alabama OTC Tax Lien

Michael WattsPosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, AL
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 29
Quote from @Denise Evans:

Yes, I know some attorneys who have been successful in foreclosing tax liens in Alabama.  You must have all of them to foreclose. No gaps.

Good afternoon Mrs Evans. Do you know about how long it took for the foreclosure of the tax liens? 

Post: Alabama Tax Sale Ejectment Attorney

Michael WattsPosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, AL
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 29

Wesley Blacksher 251-432-1010 or Mark Haynes 251-478-5203

What have me confused is do you have to have 3  consecutive subsequent year of paying of the tax liens or 3 years after you purchase a lien you can foreclosure and if there a lien holder a head you and if he don’t file foreclosure after his 3 years is up and you file foreclosure before he do, the quiet title deed will go to you? 

Quote from @Denise Evans:

If you own three consecutive years of tax liens, you can foreclose.  You will then redeem from any earlier tax liens. The wording of the statute is a bit unclear about who you have to name as defendants in the lien foreclosure lawsuit. It seems to refer to liens arising from debts, but it might also refer to prior tax liens.  The safest course of action is to name prior lienholders as defendants, but specifically state in your lawsuit you are not naming them as parties with redemption rights, but only as parties from whom you will redeem so the court can quiet title in you.


Quote from @Christine Garnier:

Alabama has now implemented the new tax lien system and  many are left wondering how it really works, especially with the OTC tax liens.  When multiple liens have been issued on a property, we now see multiple lienholders for the same property. This fractional interested ownership is truly a turn off. Now what happens when one of the lienholders want to file a foreclosure action after the three mandatory year period? 

1) Does this lienholder have to buy the liens purchased from previous lienholders, before filing the foreclosure action? If so, what is the process or worse, what if the other lienholder refuse to sell? 

OR

2) Can the lienholder who wants to proceed with the foreclosure action proceed and then pay the previous lienholders back, their investment + 12%?

It is so unbelievable to see that there is little to no information on the subject. Even calling the Counties is to no avail because they all say the same thing: we do not know.  I keep hearing that no one has yet foreclosed on a tax lien yet since the system is so new in Alabama, however, investors need to know what is the proper way to do it, especially when there are multiple lienholders for the same property. 

I thought Baldwin county and Shelby county last year would have been their first time been able to foreclose on any tax liens.  I don’t know if anyone foreclose on any. I know this May will be Mobile county first time being able to do any foreclosures. 

Post: Baldwin county, Alabama tax lien foreclosure

Michael WattsPosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, AL
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 29
Quote from @Denise Evans:

I've spoken to some people who said they went smoothly with no surprises.

Thank you Mrs Evans. Do you if they had to hire an attorney to do the foreclosure or did it there self and if they did hire an attorney about what price range they had to pay?   

Post: Baldwin county, Alabama tax lien foreclosure

Michael WattsPosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, AL
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 29

Have anyone heard anything about how did the first tax lien foreclosures went in Baldwin county or any other Alabama counties? 

Post: Paperwork needed to allow tax deed redemption

Michael WattsPosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, AL
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 29

@Gregory Stanley. how much you charge to do the paperwork on the owner paying and redeeming a tax deed from a buyer.