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All Forum Posts by: Joe Bertolino

Joe Bertolino has started 7 posts and replied 1232 times.

Post: Investment property in New Braunfels, TX vs Sacramento area, CA

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@Andreis Bergeron

Sacramento. More upside and there actually is a barrier to entry. School ranking are much better in Folsom or Rocklin. In NB only 2/14 high schools are over a 6.

Post: High Density SFH Greater Sacramento

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my 02 cents... you don’t need a PM for a single rental in Rocklin and you won’t have anywhere near 10% vacancy.  The vacancy rate is 0.8% including apartments.  Over a 7 year period I think it will be an attractive investment.  

Post: Rental demand is crazy right now

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I think we as a country have not built enough new construction to keep up with demand (5.8M units from 2009 to 2019 instead of an average of 22M units the 4 decades before) and a lot of landlords selling in a hot market so the rental stock is shrinking.  Less supply and more demand.  

Post: AC unit in older home

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Not that big of a deal in my opinion.    Install a mini split for $2500-4500 and be done with it. It is not preferred by most people but it actually works better than central HVAC in my opinion.   A house in Folsom sold for $990K with a mini split system.  The original owner was Swiss.  

Post: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse — but they are lea

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Originally posted by @AP Horvath:

@Joe Bertolino

El Dorado Hills looks like a very nice place on the way to Tahoe --- but Sacramento isn't the same with respect to jobs and future job growth as Austin or even Boise. 

@Courtney M.

Agreed. If you're living in the Riverside or Corona and commuting into OC or LA, you might might as well as move to TX. The IE isn't the same as coastal SoCal when it comes to weather. 

 Respectfully,  if you think Sacramento’s economy is not on par and will pace Boise then you have not researched Sacramento.  

Post: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse — but they are lea

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Originally posted by @AP Horvath:

@Andy Eakes -- You're wrong, California hasn't always churned people.  

Post WW-II, California was a a beautiful Everyman's Paradise with a strong economy, and lots of middle class jobs, good schools and affordable real estate and plenty of upward mobility. 

This is no longer the case. 

Today, the middle-class is being squeezed out of California -- and California is rapidly becoming Brazil: 1% media/tech/politico wealthy with the rest 99% poor. 

This middle-class destruction is a global phenomenon, but Calfornia is a bellwether for the rest of the country. 

Young families are leaving California (as well as other places in similar conditions) in droves given that the price of real estate in any place with good schools is just brutal -- this is what is seeing families move to places like Austin and Boise etc etc -- simply put: the ability to buy the white picket fence dream in a good school district. 

Not to mention, companies are leaving California b/c of this same reason --- it's hard to keep talent if that talent cannot afford a home+good schools in the area.

I say this as a lifelong Californian who loves California and knows the state inside and out -- but have moved to Texas about six years ago. 


It is true that California coastal weather, from San Diego to Santa Barbara is the absolute best in the world (I used to live in Newport Beach and loved it) and that California has some of the best natural beauty in our country be it deserts, ocean, forests, mountains -- but the reality is that the California economy is not in great shape and getting worse, and it is getting incredibly expensive to raise kids there. 

Treu story: I turned down a $400k +bonus job with a brandname company b/c it would have had me moving back to LA. I love Southern California and even the coastal parts of LA -- but $400k in Los Angeles isn't that great of a gig. 

I suggest reading what Joel Kotkin has written about California's economy and demographics:

https://joelkotkin.com/is-the-...

https://www.ocregister.com/201...

https://www.city-journal.org/b...

 Boise, Austin, Nashville, etc are not that far off of CA prices these days.   My area,  Folsom/El Dorado Hills ranks among the top suburbs in the State with nothing but 9/10-10/10 schools and pricing is on par with those three cities and possibly less.  

Post: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse — but they are lea

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Originally posted by @Chris G.:
Originally posted by @Joe Bertolino:

My guess is that headlines that say “California looses .0034% of its state population” wouldn’t generate much attention.  I’m sure seeing an extra 8000 CA license plates in Phoenix feels like an invasion but keep things in perspective.  The 480,000 people that moved to CA out earn the 650,000 that left by a wide margin .  

Idk, maybe this is anecdotal, but I've heard of millionaires moving from California to places like Texas, Arizona and Idaho (Boise) more than anyone else. It seems like the wealthier residents would have more of an incentive to move because of taxes (and other regulations) than the average citizen would.


Admittedly this data is a little old but I suspect it still holds true.  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/a...

I am not saying you are wrong but a “millionaire” leaving CA is just an average retiree that sold their house and has a $70k a year pension or $600k+ in a 401k.  Many retirees leave CA but per the data they are being replaced by doctors and software engineers.  

Post: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse — but they are lea

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My guess is that headlines that say “California looses .0034% of its state population” wouldn’t generate much attention.  I’m sure seeing an extra 8000 CA license plates in Phoenix feels like an invasion but keep things in perspective.  The 480,000 people that moved to CA out earn the 650,000 that left by a wide margin .  

Post: The bidding wars seem more intense than 2006

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I will just speak on the Sacramento market. 

1. People can afford what they are buying.  The bidding wars are funded by cash/equity rolled forward.  Average equity in the area is north of 30% (per Black Knight).  

2. We have not built a significant number of housing units since 2008.   In those peak years we were building 18,000 units a year in Sacramento... since then we have built 4-8K while we are getting 20,000+ Bay Area transplants.  

3. The bidding wars are pretty heated for dialed in houses that are intentionally under price...  and that is what we focus on but the reality is that not every house is getting 40 offers and going for 100K over.  In Sacramento there are 1051 houses that have been on the market for over 30 days as of this minute.  There are under 300 active listings under 30 days.   

4. I see investors that cannot cash flow at the current rents but they will cash flow easily at market rate rents. The rental market is Sacramento is extremely tight with a lot of upward pressure. The landlords that are cashing out are mostly selling to families (who pay more than investors on FHA loans with 3.5% down) so the existing rental stock can command large increases (outside of covid issues). Look on CL, FB market place and zillow... in any zip code there are 3-5 rentals that get snatched up in days. Many of the older long term landlords in the area have people in place paying 60% of less of market rate. I am selling a 4plex house that will get $1500/mo for a 1/1 when renovated but the current tenant is paying $550 because they have been there 16 years. There are deals all over the place that cash flow easily at current market rents. You have to do the work to turn them over but the numbers are solid.

Post: Closing cost-Services you can shop for

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Having just suffered through a closing with the lowest price title company I can promise you it isn't worth the potential few hundred dollar savings.  The turnover is so high and morale is so low that it makes everything much more difficult.  Notary fee looks high but that's an estimate and you can avoid it by signing in the office.