Quote from @Sam Mukunda:
Hi all,
I'm currently in bay area, looking into out of state rental investments. I'm a total newbie at it.
Want to understand best possible route to take in this field.
1. What are the top states/cities that are hot right now for making a purchase ? Im looking at SFH/MFH under 300K.
2. Do you recommend buying tenant pre-occupied properties whether SFH/MFH?
3. What is the typical cost associated with out of state investments ? What are some of the hidden costs ?
4. What is the usual cost associated if I were to hire a property manager to manage the house ?
5. What is the expected ROI after deducting property management costs ?
6. Are roofstack /rentToRetirement reliable sources ?
Appreciate your thoughts. Thanks in advance.
Hi Sam,
Here are the major factors in evaluating the markets:
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Your budget: are you looking to buy under $200K, $200-300K, $300-500K or higher? It can help you create a short list
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Population growth, employment growth, wage growth, composition of business types are the most important factors in the health of the market. There are many analysis, charts out there. Specifically. places where the millennials are attracted to are interesting as they are becoming the biggest renter and homebuyer group
(Note: Be careful with 'historical' data. The top growing markets in the last 2 years are unlikely the most sound choices. Good examples are Austin and Phoenix. Try to add the futuristic lenses into your analysis whenever you can. In the ideal case, there be a "new California" emerging somewhere in the next 10 years. But to be frank, CA's trajectory is impossible to replicate as working remote has become more prevalent, companies more “decentralized”, and more people think about not just professions, but also lifestyles these days).
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Are you able to find trustworthy realtors/PMs or even service providers? Do not get into a market before you know whom to work with. Many investors interview many to find the best one. In my case, I started in the Houston area as my friend had very good recommendations for me. So use your network to get more ideas!
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Run the numbers to understand the cash flow, and pay attention to the major cost such as the effective property tax rates. It typically range from 0.5%-2%+
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Rental regulations as some States are more friendly to renters while some more friendly to investors
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Distance to you. If you find a good area 2-5 hours drive from you, it’ll be easier to meet your team and check out the properties in person
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Certain hazards or costs that you want to avoid. Drought, flooding, snowstorms, tornados, just to name a few
Some other considerations:
Form an opinion about where you'd like to live in the future, and factor that in. Even if you work with PMs, being close to your properties will still be a plus.
Also decide whether cash flow is most important for you, or good enough cash flow with less hassle, higher quality tenants, or even appreciation potential. That will determine the type of properties and the price range you want to focus on.
Your specific questions about costs, types of properties etc, I'd suggest you read a few books or listen to some podcasts. They work the same way whether it's OOS or local investments.
Sharing some markets I've researched or contemplated on last year. It's by no means a full list or the best ideas:
- TX: San Antonio
- OH: Columbus
- GA: Atlanta
- NC: Raleigh
- FL: Jacksonville, St. Augustine