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All Forum Posts by: Shawn Torsitano

Shawn Torsitano has started 7 posts and replied 73 times.

Post: Renting own home

Shawn TorsitanoPosted
  • Albany, OR
  • Posts 75
  • Votes 39

How does that rent compare to what is common in your area? That sounds incredibly high to me, but every area is different. If it is abnormal for the market, you will have more difficulty finding tenants, and your vacancy rate could be higher. On the reverse, your cost for turnover will likely be pretty good, and when someone moves in, they'll likely stay for a while.

Are your property taxes included in your mortgage payment? Depending on where you are moving, management may have to be a consideration for you. That'll eat up almost everything you have left over.

You'll also need to look at insurance for the property. 

Keeping all of the profit to fix things that go wrong sounds like a good plan to me. those are pretty slim margins to try and pull a profit out of.

Post: Move Out Notice Policy

Shawn TorsitanoPosted
  • Albany, OR
  • Posts 75
  • Votes 39

Lease laws are state dependent, it would be good to talk to someone in your state for some more accurate information. Like a lawyer, which I am not.

Here in Oregon, a lease automatically converts to month-to-month after the expiration of the original signed lease, unless a new lease with specified dates is provided. When either party intends to not renew the lease, whether an actual signed lease or the automatic month-to-month, they are required to provide the required notice to the other party. Either party is responsible for their respective obligations during that notice period.

Things are generally only valid when in writing, and when dealing with large companies, I can see how they couldn't act on the information until they have it in writing. You never know when a tenant will, "Never have said that" and go after damages.

To be honest, in my opinion your friend is likely legally obliged to pay for the extra days. I'm assuming the office told him that he would have to submit his notice in writing, and time periods required for notice are usually written into leases. Sometimes things suck, but I think your friend should take it on the chin and treat paying for the days as doing the right thing, since that's what he signed a contract for.

Post: How to make an offer and close a deal

Shawn TorsitanoPosted
  • Albany, OR
  • Posts 75
  • Votes 39

Need is very, very subjective. I highly doubt it is legally required, even in the People's Republic of California(to far?). However, it may be prudent for you to seek some help of a qualified professional, if you don't feel confident enough to do this on your own.

There are usually addendums that agents have access to for a variety of situations. I have access to all of ours through Zip Forms(Zip Logix). You may be able to subscribe to something like that, I'm actually not sure if licensure is required. See: http://www.car.org/tools/zipform/nonmembers/

They are charging almost $1,000 for non-member versions, I have no idea how normal that is. I pay I think $89 a year up here in Oregon, but I am also part of our Realtor associations.

You may also be able to find downloadable versions of various addendum and forms online. You could also just try emailing some agents in your area, and asking for some blank versions of what you need.

Edit: Here are some standard forms you could purchase:

http://store.car.org/car-standard-forms/car-standa...

I think a CPA is going to be best for your situation, it sounds fairly complicated. That said, I enjoyed "Tax Free Wealth" by Tom Wheelwright, you may find some useful stuff in there too.

If you have generated enough equity through rehab, and you can bundle the properties and use them as collateral for an equity line of credit, you should be able to do that without paying taxes on the money. However, as always, consult a licensed tax professional.

@Ron Reed

Happy to hear it.

Post: How to make an offer and close a deal

Shawn TorsitanoPosted
  • Albany, OR
  • Posts 75
  • Votes 39

Depends on the state. I can't help with too much with California specific stuff.

Doing a quick Google search, I found this: 

http://www.car.org/3550/pdf/283726/396788/809175/R....).pdf

For some reason I can't get the link to work. Google, "California residential purchase agreement".

Generally, after acceptance, you have your due dilligence phase, and all that. Closer to closing, there will generally be a title company involved, unless your state requires attorneys.

Why are you against using an agent for purchasing properties?

@Petr Anisimov
I hope I can answer a few of your questions.

Generally, you'll want to invest close to home. There are plenty of times where people invest in another area, but the area you are going to be most familiar with, and therefore most likely to have success, is where you live. Trying to invest elsewhere, unless it is really reliable turnkey, is going to provide you with a lot of hurdles. You won't be able to easily view the properties, and could have a lot of difficultly finding people to trust.

If you have cash reserves, and the down payment available, consider the BRRRR strategy. It will allow you to build in some equity, and could accelerate your progress, if you are willing to take on the extra work.

As far as how to figure out the cost of a property, it really depends on the strategy for a property. The Book on Flipping Houses and The Book on Estimating Rehab Costs are good places to start for a flip or for a BRRRR. The Advanced Guide to Real Estate Investing by Ken McElroy is great for multifamily. As far as I know, his book, The ABC's of Real Estate Investing is also good, but I haven't read it.

Mark Ferguson over at Invest Four More has some great articles about rental properties that you could look into.

As far as figuring out your costs of having a property, they are fairly consistent. You have the monthly costs, like insurance, property taxes, and the like. You have property management costs, if you are paying for it. You have vacancy rates. And you have Cap Ex, which is things like roofs, siding, painting.

Repairs are going to be based on the condition of the property in comparison to similar properties renting in your area. You want the condition of your rentals to be at least as good as similar ones, depending on your targeted demographic. You can use estimate guides like the books mentioned above, things like Home Advisor, and calling local companies. It's a little odd, but the larger the scope of work, the easier it is to get accurate ballpark estimates from companies. "Replacing some siding" is very subjective, and can't really be bid over the phone, where "Replacing all the siding and wrap on the entire house with xxx sqft of surface area" is complete enough for a ballpark.

When it comes to repairs, it can be very difficult to bid things without seeing them, so keep that in mind when calling contractors. I do specialty contracting with painting(general license, but I only do painting), and I won't provide a ballpark estimates over the phone, because there are way, way too many variables that the homeowners can't adequately convey.

Generally, you'll want to break everything down into a monthly cost/percentage, since your rates are going to be monthly. Property management is commonly between 6%-10%, depending on the location, manager, and the amount of properties you have.

Cap Ex I believe is usually around 5%-10%, but that's also dependent on the age of the property. If you buy a property that has 5 years left on it's roof, you'll experience that cost much sooner than a property with a brand new 30 year roof, so the monthly cost for the amount of time you've held it when that expense is realized will be different. One of the reasons BRRRR can be great is you generally already replace big ticket items like that at the start.

Vacancy is heavily dependent on management and your area, but 5%-10% is common. Renting student housing will likely have higher vacancy and higher turnover costs than renting 3/2 singe family homes to families.

You can find the cost of property taxes from the county tax assessors website. For other market information, a local Realtor/agent will be a good source of info. Just try and find one that understands investing. The majority of real estate agents don't know how to work with investors, and don't understand it.

For insurance, give a local insurance broker a call.

With real estate, in my opinion, business plans aren't really that important. Everything is deal specific, and a business plan talking about intentions to acquire properties can be useful for goal setting, but not really for actually accomplishing specific deals. You'll have to make sure that all of your costs are included when evaluating a property, so in a sense, your analysis is going to be your per property business plan. 

Exit strategy is up to you. Only you know what you want to get out of all of it. Hold the houses forever until they are free and clear and live off a decent amount of rental income. If you want to take a more aggressive approach, you can keep leveraging new properties, and using your previous properties as collateral for new loans. You could also do a 1031 exchange at some point. These are all dependent on what your specific goals are.

Post: Nevada

Shawn TorsitanoPosted
  • Albany, OR
  • Posts 75
  • Votes 39

Places like Nevada and Wyoming tend to have more protections for LLC's, from what I've read. That said, I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make.

You may want to consult another lawyer. I'm not sure why there would be tax issues from transferring the property, but I'm not a CPA. Fees for LLC's are common though.

Filling a new entity is usually pretty simple, here in Oregon it's $100, and takes about 5-7 minutes to fill out the online form on the SOS website.There is a $50 annual fee per LLC to file the annual report.

I would look at it from a slightly larger picture. In all likelihood, you'll get more properties. Getting a bunch of LLC's in another state is certainly a possibility, but can be far more expensive, especially if your state has fees for foreign LLC's to operate locally. It will probably be much simpler and much cheaper in the long run to just pay the costs now and get it transferred. At $500 a year or lawyer costs of $1,200, you'll be in the black by the third year of not paying those fees. Probably would be worth it, if you intend to hold the property.

@Anthony Wienke

Looked through them, and I'm assuming you're looking at either the "Value-Add" or the "Moderate Rehab" loans in the "Conventional" section? I think you may have trouble meeting the LTV ratios that they have, and the experience requirements.

Value-add requires at least 15% down: 

"Maximum loan-to-purchase (LTPP) / loan-to-value (LTV) ratio: 85%
o Minimum amortizing debt service coverage (DCR) ratios: 1.10x – 1.15x depending on market"

"Eligible Sponsors:
Developers/operators with experience in multifamily property rehabilitation and in the local market with sufficient financial capacity"

 and Moderate Rehab requires 20%:

"Loan-to-value (LTV) ratio:
o Fund up to 80% of the as-is value, supported by the property acquisition price if applicable
o Periodic draws of unfunded loan proceeds (as opposed to an escrow) to reimburse the sponsor for up to 80% of the renovation costs on a monthly or quarterly basis, as work is completed, similar to construction financing
o Appraisal must demonstrate 75% as improved LTV (with fully funded renovation proceeds)"

"Eligible Sponsors:
Experienced and well-capitalized sponsors who have successfully completed rehabilitation projects of similar scope and who are familiar with the Freddie Mac loan process"

You're not likely going to be able to finance the additional amounts, most lenders will require first position. 

The project could still be a possibility, but you may need to bring on an equity partner that meets the experience requirements.

Do you have a link to that? I've never heard of it, sounds interesting.