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Updated over 8 years ago on . Most recent reply

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Anthony Wienke
  • Missoula, MT
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Is it illegal to ask investors for money on a rehab project?

Anthony Wienke
  • Missoula, MT
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So here's my question, is it illegal or unwise to ask for money from investors on a major rehab project?

I have done all the leg work and calculated the ARV (about $980,000) the total cost to purchase the vacant apartment complex with renovation costs are 525,000 to 725,000. I even went as far to figure out the growth of the area and what renters where looking for by making fake craigslist ads for the area. So I know exactly what the tenant population wants and needs for housing. I also have my own money invested into the project which is 44,000.

I would use a hard money lender but the interest rates are sky high, somewhere in the 12 to 20% range. There is no way I would be able to cover those types of rates, even if the contracting crew completed the renovation in 4 months. 

Getting back to my main question, is it illegal to ask investors for money on the project even after iv shown all the numbers? I would much rather give individual investors a 6.8% to 8% return on the amount they loaned me after one year once iv refinanced the property.

This post became a little longer than I was anticipating but all input and advice is welcome. Thanks BP community!

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Shawn Torsitano
  • Albany, OR
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Shawn Torsitano
  • Albany, OR
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It is not illegal to ask investors for money, depending on the way that you are soliciting. "Friends and family" is the common first category. When you get into "advertising" your investments, SEC regulations come into play, as do the accredited investor status and such. Consult an attorney for more info on that, if that's something you're going to look into.

Vacant apartment complex sounds incredibly risky. I assume it's not all vacant. Your cost estimate is far, far too wide. Treat it like a flip. Find the ARV, subtract all your costs, your expected profits(may be different with commercial residential, depending on your exit strategy), subtract your financing charges at the 12%+, and figure out what you can offer.

This is me guessing, but if you're not sure about whether or not you can solicit investors, you probably have 0 experience in this area. Investors are unlikely to invest with you at 7-8% interest given your low experience level. There is a guy over here in Oregon who was on Podcast 140, he's been investing since the early 80's and he still pays 9% for private money.

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