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All Forum Posts by: Tom Gimer

Tom Gimer has started 13 posts and replied 3429 times.

Post: I bought a property at auction from a junior position lien foreclosing

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You are going to need to prove to the first lien holder that you are a successor in interest... auction terms, contract, corporate docs, etc.  

This is true whether you go through a title company or not. The typical “authorization to release information” to the title company is not going to cut it.


Post: Wording in Wholesale Contract Deal

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That sounds like a surefire way to have a seller say "No Thanks" to an offer after reading it.

You can be transparent without blowing up the deal from the outset.

Post: Endbuyer and EMD

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The title company has already been selected by you, the contract purchaser. If the agreements were prepared properly, the assignee has already agreed to use the title company/escrow agent you selected. 

To allow an agent to change this is just the first step in losing control of your transaction... on top of costing your title company money.

Post: Not COVERED - TITLE Insurance issue- THOUGHTS appreciated to remedy

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Quote from @Ken M.:
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Quote from @Ken M.:
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Ken
Few Attorneys will be willing to take on a Title Company and their army of litigators.

PLUS its clear that the owners Title Insurance policy purchased ONLY by our friend insured was was conveyed and purchased (albeit fraudulently); AND that was only the Land Lot. 
The insurance willingly PAID on that claim. 

Trying to think outside the box here 
I dunno. I fought Fidelity Title (a multi billion dollar monstrosity) all the way to Federal District court. Only took 6 years. It may have changed the way they do business though. 
Fidelity flew in people from all up and down the coast for trial. 

I won.

There is no way to win this, unless there is a lawsuit.

Litigating with a title insurer that has disclaimed coverage? Sure... 

But litigating with a title insurer that has already paid policy limits? What is the point, there is nothing to win.

Ya'll need to get a life or at least litigate a case or two. Quite believing what you are told and talk to people that do this for a living. ;-)

No case is cut and dry and "variations of the event and circumstances" are introduced for leverage and control and you don't know the full story until discovery. Even then, things aren't as they seem. This is a blood sport, not a wishful thinking exercise. But, that's enough. No need to whip a dead case. ;-)

Sorry, forgot most people don't actually litigate, but have an opinion anyway. I'll just watch and chuckle on this one from here forward.

So your pro advice is sue the insurer who has already paid for a total loss of title under the policy... i.e., their maximum contractual exposure. 

Got it! Chuckle away.

Post: Not COVERED - TITLE Insurance issue- THOUGHTS appreciated to remedy

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Quote from @Peter Walther:

Your friend really needs to get some advice from a good real estate attorney who practices in the area where the property is.

That written, first, as has been pointed out several times, it sounds like your friend has received the benefit of his title policy, so I doubt there's any recourse there.  For the next time, in my experience, a title policy can be issued for the expected value of the property after the improvements are completed.  An Owner's Policy will probably have a clause that limits the amount of insurance to the value of the property as of the date the claim is made.  In your friend's situation, the loss would not be the amount he has spent improving the property, but the value of the property as improved by the partial construction.  For a lender's policy, it would be the amount of money disbursed under the mortgage/deed of trust. Now that's the amount of insurance and not necessarily the amount of the loss which could be a different calculation.

Second, if memory serves me, a claim for unjust enrichment requires the cause of action be based on a contract between the parties where the plaintiff (your friend) performed a service for the defendant (the property owner) for which the plaintiff had an expectation to be paid.  In my opinion your friend might have a cause of action for equitable improvement, but the possibility for success depends entirely on the specific facts.  Again, you friend needs to get to an attorney.

Lastly, your friend is not looking to have title restored to him as he never likely never had title since generally title cannot not pass under a forged deed unless the deed transfer has been recorded in a Torrens title state, he's going to ask to be paid back for the value of the improvement.  For example, if the improvements don't meet code, he shouldn't expect to be repaid the $200k he paid to make the improvements.  He should expect to be ordered to remove the improvements at his expense.

Unjust enrichment is used when there is NOT a contract... but under circumstances where it would be inequitable for the defendant to keep the benefits received from the plaintiff without compensation/restitution.

If there WAS a contract the plaintiff would just sue for breach. The existence of a contract is actually a defense to an unjust enrichment claim.

The plaintiff here was defrauded (albeit by a third party) into providing a large benefit to the property owner. Not as a gift and not voluntarily... so it's worth further research. And if it all fails, I love @Ed O. 's idea.

Post: Not COVERED - TITLE Insurance issue- THOUGHTS appreciated to remedy

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Quote from @Ken M.:
Quote from @Michael Morrongiello:

Ken
Few Attorneys will be willing to take on a Title Company and their army of litigators.

PLUS its clear that the owners Title Insurance policy purchased ONLY by our friend insured was was conveyed and purchased (albeit fraudulently); AND that was only the Land Lot. 
The insurance willingly PAID on that claim. 

Trying to think outside the box here 
I dunno. I fought Fidelity Title (a multi billion dollar monstrosity) all the way to Federal District court. Only took 6 years. It may have changed the way they do business though. 
Fidelity flew in people from all up and down the coast for trial. 

I won.

There is no way to win this, unless there is a lawsuit.

Litigating with a title insurer that has disclaimed coverage? Sure... 

But litigating with a title insurer that has already paid policy limits? What is the point, there is nothing to win.

Post: Not COVERED - TITLE Insurance issue- THOUGHTS appreciated to remedy

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The title insurer has honored its commitment in full. They're out.

Research unjust enrichment... a legal doctrine based in equity. The defendant would be the owner who has been unjustly enriched. You would find the defenses to such a claim developed through state caselaw.

Post: In search of solid title processor

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The Investor Team at Eastern Title is looking for a rock solid title processor. As an investor if you've worked with a great processor who you know is not happy at their current company, help them make a move by sending them my contact information! 

A move to Eastern Title could be just the career move they need.

Depending on the candidate, the position could be in office (we have several), hybrid or fully remote. Great pay! Candidate would be expected to close 40 deals per month max. Communication skills and the ability to multi-task are a premium.

Refer anyone you know to me please... and I promise if it works out I will take care of you.

Post: Buying a Property but we cant find someone on title!

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I believe you are dealing with a missing interest and nothing will save the deal until every last % has been accounted for. 

When buying property the expectation is to get 100%… whether to move on or not will depend upon how easy it will be to locate that interest-holder and secure their signing. 

Post: Bank foreclosures legal perspective

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In a pre-foreclosure scenario, the bank does not own the property and therefore cannot use the courts to obtain possession. 

Also the goal in a foreclosure is not to bring in the most money... the bank's recovery is limited to the amount owed.