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All Forum Posts by: Terry Miller

Terry Miller has started 0 posts and replied 172 times.

Post: Choosing a business bank account

Terry MillerPosted
  • Akron, OH
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 189
Quote from @Dorothy C.:
Quote from @Jordan Alexander:

Go with Chase! They are easy to use and they let you know if something weird is going on with your account.


 Can you use Zelle on the Chase business account?

Yes!

Chase is one of the main partners of the group of banks that created the Zelle system. I LOVE Zelle.
https://www.zellepay.com/get-started?bank=c

Quote from @Veena Vaidyanathan:
Quote from @Terry Miller:
Where at in Ohio?
Cleveland

The commenter above me is from Cleveland. His idea is a very good solution.

Post: Tips for Maximizing Capital with LLC Partnership

Terry MillerPosted
  • Akron, OH
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 189
Max out your family's I-bond purchases. The advice your Marine brother gave you in the first reply may be the way to go.
Quote from @Wesley W.:

Here is my system that I have shared on the forums previously:

It all starts with online ads, within which are several questions I request be answered in their response to my ad. Here they are:

1.) Your first and last name, email address and phone number
2.) Total number of people that would occupy the apartment
3.) Proposed pets (size/breeds)
4.) Monthly pre-tax income for household
5.) Date you wish to move in

6.) Do you currently have enough funds to pay first month’s rent and a security deposit?

(I used to collect last month's rent as well, which I highly encourage, but it recently became prohibited in NYS.)

Next, here's a canned email response I use for everyone who answers my ad with the aforementioned questions answered. If they don't answer my questions, I know they have not read the ad and are just clicking and "tire kicking" or they lack the intellectual focus for me to have any business relationship with them.

I market on Craiglist and Zillow and get great leads from both in my market. Problem with Zillow is they have this annoying "1-click reply" where people can just click on your ad without reading it and you get an automated message "Joe is interested in your apartment at 123 Main St." To these responses I just cut/paste the ad narrative into an email reply. This is a waste of my time, but I am stuck with it if I want to market through them.

Here is the email response:

Thank you for your interest. We have a minimum income requirement to qualify for this unit (4 times monthly rent); based on your email, it appears you meet those qualifications.

Regarding pets, we allow cats and most dog breeds except for the following:

  • -any breeds/mixes known under common parlance as “Pit Bull”
  • -Rottweiler
  • -Doberman Pinscher
  • -German Shepherd
  • -Alaskan Malamute a.k.a “Husky”
  • -Chow Chow
  • -Great Dane
  • -St. Bernard
  • -Akita
  • -Wolf hybrids

Unfortunately, these are prohibited for insurance reasons. Keeping pets requires a one-time nonrefundable pet fee of $200 (per pet) as well as an additional $20 monthly rent for each approved pet. As pet lovers ourselves, we typically like to meet your pets at some point in the process, too.

Our tenants’ safety and the peaceful enjoyment of their home is important to us, so we do a credit/criminal background check on all applicants aged 18+. Big concerns are bankruptcies/repossessions/evictions and crimes against people/property. We can provide a complete list of our qualifying criteria upon request. If you don't foresee any major stumbling blocks (or, if you do, and would like to discuss further - we can certainly do that), I'd be happy to set up a showing for you. Let me know what you think.

As a matter of information, smoking is prohibited inside our rental units.

If you decide that the apartment would meet your needs and wish to proceed with the application process, a “deposit to hold” binder equal to a month’s rent would need to be collected at that time. This holds the unit for 5 to 7 days until the lease signing, and once the rental agreement is signed this becomes the first month's rent. At the lease signing, you will need to put down another $1650, which will be the security deposit ($825) and last month's rent ($825). So, the total move-in costs (not including pet fees, if applicable) would be $2475, all paid prior to lease signing.

Also, we would need copies of the two most recent pay stubs and photo ID for all applicants aged 18+ (I can scan at the showing) to begin the verification process, which only takes a few days.

Since choosing a place to live is a very personal decision, please feel free to do a “drive by” of the property, located at 123 Main St, so you can get a “feel” for the neighborhood. (I will ask that, out of respect for our current tenants’ security and privacy, to please wait until your showing appointment before walking the property.)

If everything above is agreeable to you, let me know your availability over the next day or so and I'd be happy to take you through the apartment.

Thank you, and I look forward to meeting you at the showing!

Note how I reiterate the qualifying criteria as well as itemizing what the move-in costs will be.  Since my units are a C-class, I also suggest a drive-by so they are not unpleasantly surprised by the neighborhood when they attend the showing, and just keep on driving by anonymously as I wait outside.  (This has happened a few times to me.)  This email gives people yet another opportunity to self-select out of the application process based on my expectations and criteria before an actual showing is scheduled.

If they do request a showing, I send them this email:

Hi Joe,

Please read this entire email.

How about a showing on Thursday at 7 pm? If that works for you, please reply to this email within 24 hours to accept this appointment and I will then add you to my showing schedule.

Also, as a means of courtesy to both our busy schedules, please confirm via text or phone call at least 2 hours prior on the day of the showing to my cell phone (insert your phone number).

I’ve also attached our rental application. I will have hard copies at the showing, but if you print and fill them out prior to the showing, this would save us both some time should you want to expedite your application in the process.

I look forward to meeting you on Thursday!

I typically bundle showing appointments consecutively for my own efficiency as well as to minimize the disruption of our current tenant. I book appointments 15 minutes apart, and based on demand, usually 2-3 times per week.  Often it is 2 weekday afternoons, and late morning on a weekend day.  Unless they are absolute rock stars and I have no other strong prospects in the onboarding flow, I will not deviate from this.  If they have enough interest in the unit, they will rearrange their schedule to accommodate me.  If I have someone that is marginal that expresses interest, I will book them last minute in between two showing slots of strong candidates to fill up the schedule, but more importantly to create demand pressure on the strong candidates.  They will see someone leaving the unit right before them and someone else showing up as they are leaving.

If they counter with a day/time that doesn't work for me, I usually just tell them that I don't have any showing slots available, to capitalize on the scarcity mindset and incentivize them to get in and see it ASAP.  This is not really a stretch; my available units usually garner HUNDREDS of inquiries, and I usually get a dozen or two that actually get in for a showing.

If they have not confirmed an hour prior to their appointment, I send this text to their phone (which was required as part of their contact information I required in the response to my ad):

As I had requested in my email, you have not yet confirmed your apartment showing for this evening, scheduled for 7:00pm. If I don’t hear from you in the next 10 minutes, I will assume you aren’t attending and I will move on to my next appointment.

NOTE:  I've gotten away from this a bit, since I am more keen on renting to functioning adults and I find this is a bit enabling.  I will do this, however, if it is the first or last showing of the day.  But honestly, if they are marginal to begin with I will just blow them off and not be there.  Again, this demonstrates to me how responsible they are.  Almost always, their behavior never gets better after the the application process; this is when they are presumably showing you their best.

Using this system has dramatically reduced any wasted time I used to endure as part of the showing process as well as giving me empirical data about their timeliness/responsiveness/respect for others' time.

Good luck!

Great stuff. Will share most with my clients. The German Shepherd part won't be shared, as that is the most versatile dog breed on planet Earth. What breed can do work (duh, shepherd), security, search and rescue, and service all competently?

EDIT: I used to tell this to people with the joke added to imagine a pit bull as a seeing-eye dog. :-/

Post: Where do you get your data from?

Terry MillerPosted
  • Akron, OH
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 189
MelissaData, census.gov, etc.

You have to submit a proposal for your business? She is such a "den mother" that she won't sell to you unless you have a great/feasible idea?

That doesn't sound 100% right.

I am a business consultant.

That sounds like she will get a free look at the marketing research YOU are paying for, and may possibly "steal" your idea, and get her own investment group together. Muhahahhha? Okay. Not necessarily likely, but still a possibility. I am nevertheless trying to come up with a likely explanation for her "concern" with what your business prospects are.

You see, if she were LEASING this building to you for your business venture, her inquiry would make PERFECT SENSE, and would actually constitute normal due diligence. But for a sale? Hmmmmmmmmm.

If they hint at doing it, pursue a fraud charge against them. It is fraud for them to take that "money for keys" arrangement with no intention of fulfilling their end of the agreement.

That may help to change their minds about playing you.

Quote from @Patricia Steiner:

My clients and I (as an investor) only accept electronic payment of rent - Zelle, Paypal, CashApp.  It avoids the whole "lost in the mail, I sent it, excuses for late payment."  Our tenants actually prefer it as well.  I would recommend it to you so that you can preserve a boundary between your personal life and that of the "way too convenient" landlord.

Hope this helps...


And unlike many options in the past (and unfortunately a few in the
present), options such as Zelle, CashApp, etc. are free of fees. Why
promise a landlord a check or money order from cash in your account when
you can just send it electronically, free of charge, unless you don't
have all of the funds?

Quote from @Kenneth Young:

Current situation... Fresh off a divorce. Have a pension I can't touch. 90k in a 403 b I can't touch. Have around 40k in my savings. 830 credit score. Make around 75k a year.   Don't own my home anymore due to divorce. Thinking of buying a 2 family to start over with. Live on one side rent other side out. Do this for 2+ years and then hopefully buy a single family home and keep the 2 family as a long term investment. Any advice?


I was a little sad when I read the title. But as I read the first few sentences, I got happy for you. You still have an excellent credit score and $40,000 in the bank after a divorce? You won already.

That house hack sounds like an excellent plan for your situation.

The post that talks about borrowing against your 403b is a great thing to look into.

I wish you well.