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All Forum Posts by: Steven Hamilton II

Steven Hamilton II has started 25 posts and replied 5112 times.

Post: Calculating cost basis for rental

Steven Hamilton II
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Originally posted by @Natalie Kolodij:
Originally posted by @Swati Patel:

Hi all, appreciate your time in reading my post and taking the time to respond. My question is as follows.

I bought my rental property in 2016 for $300K and the property tax letter accessed land value as $120K and structural value is $180K. Fast forward to 2020, the value of the rental has appreciated to $330K and property tax letter has now assessed land value as $130k and structural value as $200K. 

Which number of structural value should I use for cost basis? the value from 2016 when I purchased the property or the recent value?

If I use the recent value, then every year the cost basis will change because the accessed value is changing every year. 

Has it been a rental since 2016? 

You never change your depreciable basis. Regardless of what market value does. 

You also don't use the literally values from the tax assessor- You use their %.

They put $120k to land $180 to building= 40% land 60% building. 

This is a rare instance where what you paid = what the tax assessor also valued it at. 

So long story short ....

You apply 40% land value 60% building value to what you paid. 

Precisely

Post: Can I take partial depreciation?

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Originally posted by @Swati Patel:

Thank you @Robert C., @Matthew Talmadge and @Basit Siddiqi for your responses. This clears my doubt that I can't take partial deduction and that I will have to take full deduction and that I can carry over losses to following year. 

Followup question - Say after couple years of carrying over losses, my losses eventually becomes greater than the income for say year 2022, then could I skip taking depreciation entirely for that year? Or am I *required* to take depreciation no matter what?

Based upon your questions I'd strongly advise finding an accountant to work with. You sign a tax return under penalties of perjury. It is not something you want to prepare incorrectly.

Post: Bookkeeping Services on Fiverr.com

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I will second Jake's statement. Anyone can decide they want to do bookkeeping and we've seen some horribly messed up books by so called professionals.

Post: CPA question for Cost Segregation

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That said if he is not at the point where he is capped it is benenficial to look at it to build up a bank of passive losses against future income. 

Post: CPA and Lawyer Recommendations

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Thank you guys for the recommendation. 

Post: Can I use check copies & credit card statements for expenses?

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Originally posted by @Crystal Smith:
Originally posted by @Steven Hamilton II:
Originally posted by @Crystal Smith:
Originally posted by @Byron W.:

I'm living in a tri-plex house hack. Renting out 2 units and living in one. This is currently the only property I own. I've had work done on the building itself (roof repairs) and remodeling work in one of my previously vacant units last year. My biggest expenses were for contractor work (totaled around $8000 last year). And supplies from Home Depot.

In the event that I'm audited, would my credit card statements and copies of the checks I wrote to the contractors be enough to support my expense claims? Some of the contractors wrote me receipts, so I have those on hand. But some others did not but I did write them a check, so I have the records of those on hand. And the same goes for Home Depot purchases for supplies. I have the credit card statements but not the receipts. In a pinch, I could go to Home Depot and have them print up all of the receipts I need since all of the purchases were made on 1 credit card.


In the future, I plan to keep record of all receipts and require receipts from all contractors. And file them using some tax software.

My opinion: Yes. Your credit card statements and checks should be enough evidence for an audit. The real concern in the audit won't be the statements or checks but how what % of the expense you're applying as a business expense. 

Actually that is not correct. You do need receipts. You have to prove what the expense was actually for. If you go to home depot and spend $500 on materials, but don't have the receipt, how would the IRS know you did not purchase a new grill or patio furniture for yourself. You as the taxpayer have the burden to prove you are entitled to deductions. There are some items that are reasonably assessed(insurance, RE Taxes) from what is provided; however, the general rule is to keep all of your receipts. 

How do I know this? I typically represent anywhere from 25-50+ taxpayers in audit at any time. Most of them filed their own tax return or are referred to my firm. 

 Thanks for your correction...... But we've been audited and never had a problem.

There are some items that can be proven via statements; however, for many such as a rehab you will want your detailed receipts. There is also a thing called and NRP Audit. Where they will specifically be allowing items based upon receipts and documentation. 

Post: Can I use check copies & credit card statements for expenses?

Steven Hamilton II
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Originally posted by @Crystal Smith:
Originally posted by @Byron W.:

I'm living in a tri-plex house hack. Renting out 2 units and living in one. This is currently the only property I own. I've had work done on the building itself (roof repairs) and remodeling work in one of my previously vacant units last year. My biggest expenses were for contractor work (totaled around $8000 last year). And supplies from Home Depot.

In the event that I'm audited, would my credit card statements and copies of the checks I wrote to the contractors be enough to support my expense claims? Some of the contractors wrote me receipts, so I have those on hand. But some others did not but I did write them a check, so I have the records of those on hand. And the same goes for Home Depot purchases for supplies. I have the credit card statements but not the receipts. In a pinch, I could go to Home Depot and have them print up all of the receipts I need since all of the purchases were made on 1 credit card.


In the future, I plan to keep record of all receipts and require receipts from all contractors. And file them using some tax software.

My opinion: Yes. Your credit card statements and checks should be enough evidence for an audit. The real concern in the audit won't be the statements or checks but how what % of the expense you're applying as a business expense. 

Actually that is not correct. You do need receipts. You have to prove what the expense was actually for. If you go to home depot and spend $500 on materials, but don't have the receipt, how would the IRS know you did not purchase a new grill or patio furniture for yourself. You as the taxpayer have the burden to prove you are entitled to deductions. There are some items that are reasonably assessed(insurance, RE Taxes) from what is provided; however, the general rule is to keep all of your receipts. 

How do I know this? I typically represent anywhere from 25-50+ taxpayers in audit at any time. Most of them filed their own tax return or are referred to my firm. 

Post: 1099 employee thinking of starting and using S Corp to buy house

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Kevin,

You will want to hold them separately. The best financing options will not be through an entity. 

Here is an article on the topic. DO NOT HOLD RENTALS IN A CORPORATION. If an accountant recommends this you should run. 

https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/7496/90116-9-reasons-its-dangerous-to-hold-real-estate-in-a-corporation

Post: IRS withholding refund?

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@natalie and @Linda covered this perfectly. as a side note this is literally been one of the most difficult tax seasons for all accountants out there. We've had the stimulus we have had PPP loans EIDL loans, our phones have been ringing off the hook with questions about it people who aren't our clients are asking for help so chances are if they were cold or distant all they might just be a little stressed out.

As for the due date I can tell you my firm we default our due date to the latest the IRS allows us to pay this is simply because most clients do not want to pay prior and setting up and auto debit allows them to keep the money in their bank longer.

This year we've noticed several returns get hung up in the IRS system and just saying processing I have one that we filed on February 15th that is still saying processing and we can't get a hold of anybody to find out what's going on.

You are making an assumption that the assistant dealt with everything they may deal with communications for the accountant so that way they can work on physical work on tax returns.

Post: What makes you a heavy hitter on BP?

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As a BP OG (or so I've been called in the past), I was a moderator for a long time.  I stay rather busy here advising members who have questions. I even have other accounting professionals here who come to me with their questions. This website has driven quite a bit of business for me and has accelerated my real estate portfolio as well.