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All Forum Posts by: Steven Gesis

Steven Gesis has started 30 posts and replied 867 times.

Quote from @Brian Burke:
Quote from @Steven Gesis:

Important takeaway is due diligence review, not only deal level but sponsor track record - yes, past performance is not indicative of future results, but at least it's a metric to review. 


Agreed--but wait, there's more! One of the ways these operators got to the high IRR was to leverage the equity with a lot of debt and senior equity. So in addition to what Steven said about track record and due diligence, investors should pay close attention to how the capital is structured.

High LTVs, short maturities, mezzanine debt, outside preferred equity, and multiple share classes (the recently popular A/B equity structure) all increase risk.  This wasn't taken seriously by many sponsors (who used these methods to attract capital as well as reduce the amount of capital they needed to raise) as well as investors (many of whom didn't understand the risks nor were they educated on these risks by the sponsor outside of a paragraph buried in a 100 page PPM).


 Brian, I read an article in Bloomberg the whole premise of the business plan for a particular operator was a "double pop" and a short-term fix and flip strategy all focused on high velocity  multiple refinance events, floating adjsutable rate and the hope and faith of continued rent growth coupled with low interest rates in multifamily -  never even heard of a "double pop" suppose it can theoretically work, but the in-going cost basis has to be so low, the first lift has to happen so fast like almost within a few months- so the debt has to increase with it quickly, then followed by another lift and refinance in less than 30 monhts - I do not know sounds like a bomb! - personally at SMARTLAND as experienced heavy lift multifamily operators - it is a complex process and requires a team, time and skill - Yes, you can lift a property and value moderlty quickly if you have the right tools and process in place, no doubt, but you have to also have the correct financing tools in place and appropriate cost-basis to withstand turbulence along the way - (no straight path) - the short term mezz loans into this constricted/constrained lending environment is tough, even more tough with raising cap rates, market repricing = requires more time to season and continue to hold, unfortunatley as we have discuss to the max on this forum time was not on this operators side with the short term adjustable mezz loan -

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Pref Equity has entered many deals in the past 18 months advance of LP positions, also took a GP slice along the way  ---- 

Post: PEP fund with Lane Kawaoka

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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Quote from @Bob Regent:

I was also disappointed to see that distributions for the PEP fund have stopped. If that was the only investment that wasn't distributing I wouldn't think too much about it, but I have 5 or 6 other investments with Lane and none are distributing. Some have never distributed a dime, even though they were advertised as cash flow investments. 

When I initially spoke with Lane I told him that I was retiring and looking for cash flow opportunities and we discussed the best options for that. Now the line he is telling us is that we should not worry about cash flow, and if a little cash flow is what you're after then they don't want you as a customer. His words, not mine. I started investing with him at the beginning of 2020 and so far, my average annual return has been 2.6% with the biggest portion of that coming from the PEP fund. Average annual return from all other investments with him is 1.8%. I now also have an alert about cash calls on some of my investments!

I know that many things in the real estate world are hard to predict and out of the operators control. But his website is a complete mess and hasn't worked correctly in almost 2 years so it's impossible to find the status of your investments. One of the properties sold back in December 2023 and we were told that we would be receiving an update of the profit in January. It's now mid-March and still have not heard anything. 

Keeping my fingers crossed that he is able to sell some of these properties at profit. 


 Bob Regent - all I can say is OMG

Quote from @Giles D.:

Good morning everyone,

I invested in a syndication deal back in late 2021 through Simple Passive Cashflow and Truepoint Capital, with Lane Kawaoka and Kyle Jones respectively as GP's. The deal has produced 1 single distribution in that time and now they have both stopped updating the LP's on the deal and have not had an updates this year. They have now stopped responding and corresponding to emails and the only phone numbers they provide go to a medical facility in Florida and a full VM box that never gets responded to.

Am I just f'd out of my money here with no recourse or do I have any leg to stand on to try and sue them for poor due diligence and not fulfilling the promises made? I've received 2 K1's so if this is fraud then i'd imagine they've committed a federal offence by issuing false documents to the federal authorities. Yes, I am getting desperate but I'm throwing myself to this crowd to see if any one else has gone through something similar or can give me some advice or even to laugh at me and say what an idiot I was, which I know already so save yourself the time!

Regards

Giles Dalrymple

 Giles, so sorry to hear about this  - amazing response @Brian Burke - this is, unfortunately, happening to many LPs in the marketplace today, many unseasoned operators showed up in 2022 and had a high IRR high-velocity fix and flip strategy for large MultiFamily offering and the combination of inexperienced investors with inexperienced operators turned into a bomb and for others a nightmare -

Important takeaway is due diligence review, not only deal level but sponsor track record - yes, past performance is not indicative of future results, but at least it's a metric to review. 

Post: Thoughts on Huntsville, Alabama?

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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@Zane K. Sounds like you are experienced and Huntsville has been growing rapidly -

Post: For newbies and the BIG MEANIE INVESTORS in the BiggerPockets forums

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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@Jim K. It's truth this is not an easy road but one that can be at times rewarding on many different levels beyond financial

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Post: Smartland in Ohio

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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Quote from @Allison Karrels:

Going to bump this  - just started looking into Smartland and looking for any one who has worked with them.


 Allison, we did not hear from you :) 

Post: Smartland in Ohio

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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Quote from @Anthony Bertolino:

Hoping to hear if anyone has had experience with Smartlands as well. I love the professional feel of their website and one of the posters on here but looking for more insight.

Thanks.


 Anthony, lets connect - hopefully you gained enough insight on us over the past 7 years 

Post: Smartland in Ohio

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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Quote from @Lisa Connelly:

I am considering my first investment with Smartland as well. I had a call yesterday with a rep that made me feel confident, but not quite ready to pull the trigger just yet until getting more verified reviews of their track record of returns and service. Any feedback here would be much appreciated. Thanks!


 Lisa, fast forward 6 years our track record has grown and so have we - lets revisit