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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 8 posts and replied 91 times.

Post: Snowball Payoff 10 SFRs in 7.5 years for $110k cash flow - advice

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  • Denver, CO
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@Andrew Syrios - you've got me thinking differently now. Maybe I keep the money and re-invest. I can always pay down or pay off if I choose, but this way I have access and can do what I want with the capital.

Post: Snowball Payoff 10 SFRs in 7.5 years for $110k cash flow - advice

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@Bill S. - I looked up their office locations and they dont have one in Wichita - the only one in KS in further east near KC.

Post: Snowball Payoff 10 SFRs in 7.5 years for $110k cash flow - advice

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  • Denver, CO
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Thanks @Andrew Syrios - this is an early retirement play so I'm willing to forget about the cash flow from these properties for the time being. I just hope the Wichita market holds up over time.

@Shane H. - thats great info. I need to get better market data for Wichita. Here in Denver, I use numbers from a local brokerage and also look at weekly market reports from Chicago Title. Can you point me to a title company or brokerage in Wichita that can provide market reports down to the zip code like this? I'm also very interested in population growth and vacancy rates for the area.

Post: Snowball Payoff 10 SFRs in 7.5 years for $110k cash flow - advice

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  • Denver, CO
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I'm considering a purchase of 10 SFRs in Wichita. I have a few homes there already, and a fantastic property manager that I respect and trust.

I've run some preliminary numbers, and it looks like I might be able to cash out refinance my home at 3.75% which raises my mortgage payments by $350/mo. I can then finance 4 houses on 30 year fixed FNMA loans. The remaining 6 houses will be on a 20 year amortized commercial loan. 

The plan is to take the net cash flow from all 16 props I would own and apply about $4000/mo against the commercial loan, with estimated payoff in about 4 yrs. Then I apply the $4000/mo plus what I had been paying on the comm loan against the four FNMA loans and they should be paid off in about 3.5 years. 

Net cash flow from all 16 properties should yield about $110,000 / year, and it will take 7.5 years to get there. I'm relatively comfortable with the Wichita market, although it is not my own market so I dont know it very well. I've spoken with my bank there, my property manager who owns 100+ homes of his own in this market, and a couple of realtors and they all feel comfortable about this move.

My question is this: without getting more specific about the actual numbers on each property, what are some risks I may not have considered with this approach? If my income were to drop by 25% and 6 houses went vacant at one time I have reserves to carry me for about a year. I see this approach as less risky because I am paying off a property every 12 months or so. 

Who else has used the snowball method of paying off rental properties? What can I learn from you?

Post: Finding The Next Deal

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  • Denver, CO
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I agree with Bill 100%. Direct to seller is the way to go. Closing the last of 5 deals in 6 weeks next week, and all came from direct to seller marketing. 

Post: Metro Denver Real Estate Midyear Report

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This report was sent out yesterday. Huge thanks to Charles, Lon and everyone on the Your Castle team for creating such detailed reports on the fastest appreciating market in the country! All credit goes to Your Castle Real Estate and First Alliance Title. 

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Denver Home Price Change Map - July 2015

1. Average Home Price: The average price of a home in metro Denver leapt another 12 percent in the past 12 months. I believe 2015 will continue to play out very strong and here's why: The number one driver of home price change is the amount of inventory on the market. Our market inventory continues to drop, down another 17 percent from this time last year for single-family homes (down 19 percent for condos and townhomes!). Until inventory comes back on the market there will continue to be tremendous upward pressure on prices as demand outstrips supply. Where will the new supply of home inventory come from? It won't be bank-owned properties and shortsales. 

The metro Denver economy is strong and unemployment is low so there will be very few distressed properties on the market for the foreseeable future. The additional supply will eventually come from home owners who finally realize what a great market it is to sell and decide to put their home up for sale. When this will happen is anyone's guess. We've seen very little evidence of home owners making this realization so far, as evidenced by the continued lack of inventory on the market. Sooner or later though inventory will begin to appear. That's your sign of a changing market. But this might take several more years which is why prices will continue to rise strongly.

2. Number of Homes Sold: Because there is so little inventory in our market the number of homes sold is actually going DOWN year over year, not up. There were 9 percent fewer homes sold in June, '15 than June '14 simply because there is no inventory to sell. It's the very definition of a seller's market.

3. The Condo/Townhome Market: Incredibly enough the condo market is doing even better than single-family homes! Prices are up 16 percent in the past year and inventory is down 19 percent creating a blistering hot market for attached homes. Just like for the single-family home market I don't see any evidence this will change any time soon. Until more condo inventory comes on the market prices will continue to rise. Expect strong price increases for the next several years.

4. The Investor Market: Denver is still a great place to invest in real estate. The fix and flip market is strong for those who can find underpriced homes to buy and repair. They're out there but it takes tools, patience, and work to find them. Once you get one fixed up, selling is the easy part because of the lack of competing inventory. The buy and hold market will continue to be extremely profitable for long-term investors. Interest rates and vacancy rates are still near record lows and rents continue to rise - a record 10.8 percent per year the past three years. It's not difficult to buy a rental property in today's environment and put it on the path to be paid off in 12-15 years. Just think how your life would change if you owned a couple of rental properties free and clear! For building long-term wealth it's tough to compete with rental property ownership. That's the one thing that will never change.

Post: My Flip is NOT Selling! - Help!

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  • Denver, CO
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Either priced too high, or it is functionally obsolete in some way. Does it back to a major street? What do your MLS pictures look like? Were they shot by your agent, or a professional?

What are your other comps telling you? How many other actives within a half mile? Etc Etc Etc... lots of missing info here.

Post: Major DDoS / Spam Attack on BiggerPockets This Morning

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The NYSE, United Airlines, The Wall Street Journal and BiggerPockets were all attacked and taken down today. Hmmm....

Post: Denver Small Landlord Meetup

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  • Denver, CO
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Nice - going to try to make it!

Post: Denver Apartment Rent Increases to be Largest in U.S. This Year - Study

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  • Denver, CO
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@Scott Trench Grant P. and everyone else investing in the Denver market - 

Here's some very good info I just received from Lon Welsh at Your Castle Real Estate - YCRE are the numbers and stats guys who track everything in our market. These are his notes taken from a presentation he attended given by the lead economist for NAR (National Association of Realtors). I'm very optimistic about the future of our market.

Here are the presentation slides Lon refers to below

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As you may know, Dr. Yun is the lead economist for NAR (National Association of Realtors). He was here in Denver a few days ago, and here are the slides from his presentation. Below are my cliff notes for the high points.

Page 4, 5

- We lost 8 million jobs in the big recession and have since added 12 million

- Unemployment insurance claims at a 15 year low!

- Unemployment rate almost back to best years before the recession


Bottom page 5 – BEST slide ever

- Denver has added A LOT of jobs since 2010! About 300,000 or +30% (and you wonder why there is no inventory??). that’s +50,000 jobs a year

- The total population increase has been around 50,000 people a year in 2009-2015. Half of those folks are in the labor force (others are retired, kids, college students, stay at home parents). So we can approximate that most/all of the population increase people that wanted jobs have gotten them (25,000 or so per year) AND we’ve absorbed another 25,000 people a year on top of it (mostly from the ranks of the unemployed).

- The average income keeps going up in Denver, so these jobs are as “good” as they have been. While there have been pressures in the energy sector, other parts of the Denver economy are doing well enough to offset those losses.


Page 7

- Net worth (all assets minus all liabilities) at an all-time high. This driven by high stock market valuation and the rebound of the real estate market across the US.


Page 8

- “I’m not feeling it”. I think you hear this from clients. GDP growth in this recover hasn’t been as strong as prior economic recoveries. I’m not an economist, but I think the sluggish rebound in construction plays a big part in this.


Page 9 (top)

- The % number that want to be working that are working has been pretty constant at 58% for six years. So while the national economy has added about 12 million jobs (and Denver has added 300,000), the US population growth grew as fast as employment. We’re the outlier in Denver, since we’re adding jobs 2x as fast as population growth. That’s a big driver for our real estate and rental market.


Page 9 (bottom) and Page 10

- The home ownership rate peaked at 69% in 2004. Easy loans (stated income! No verification / no doc!) drove ownership from the historical 64% range to this artificial peak. The big recession we endured was the correction of all of those bad loans going through the foreclosure process. Since that peak, the homeownership rate has steadily gone back down to 64%, the long term historical average.

- I don’t have this stat for Denver, but I bet it’s comparable. For the US, I would expect it to stabilize here. In Denver, given home price increases and the scarcity of inventory for first time buyers, I’d expect the home ownership rate locally to drop further. That means that the renter % of households (100%-64% = 36% rent) will increase in Denver.

- We have not built enough rental units to keep pace with population growth in Denver since 2001. It’s going to be a while before it’s a tenant market again, in my opinion. Particularly for entry and mid-level rental product.


Page 10

- The average house hold (HH) net worth of a family that owns their home/condo is about $200,000. For a renter, the average HH net worth is around $5,000. Owners are 35x wealthier than renters. It’d be interesting to see this stat for landlords. I’d imagine their average net worth would be 3-5x as much as the house hold that only has their primary residence.


Page 13

- Home construction is sluggish. I think the slides I’ll show you at the company meeting next week make the case in a more compelling manner.


Page 14

- Reasons why construction has been slow to rebound. In Denver metro you can add (1) lack of available land on which to build, (2) cost for water tap fees, and (3) extremely backlogged city construction permit offices.


Page 20

- Still not much evidence of inflation on the horizon


Page 22

- Dr Yun thinks mortgage rates are heading up. We’ve all thought that for years. Maybe he’s right this time. We have such an oversupply of buyers relative to inventory, I don’t think (reasonable) increases in mortgage rates would have much impact on our local market.


Page 24

- Great slide on pent-up demand. For the entire US, between 2000 and 2014

o Existing home sales dropped from 5.2 to 4.9 MM -6%

o The US population grew from 280 to 320 MM +13%

o Based on population, you’d expect that home unit sales could increase +19% to be in line with historical averages. For the entire US, that’d be about 1,000,000 incremental sales. That’s a lot of millennial kids living in basements!


Page 26

- Long term, there is a good correlation between consumer confidence, household wealth, and sales of vacation / 2nd homes. This bodes very well for the mountain resorts.

- Vacation home sales have doubled in the past two years..


Page 27

- Continued economic growth, a little faster (3%) than past few years (2-3%)

- Continued strong US job growth, and probably the same here in Denver metro

- Dr Yun sees inflation picked up from 1.5% range to 3.2% in 2016. I don’t agree, but he’s an economist and I’m not.

- Continued improvement in consumer confidence.

- Increasing mortgage rates