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All Forum Posts by: Seth M. Jones

Seth M. Jones has started 5 posts and replied 76 times.

Post: Is there a 1% Rule market out there?

Seth M. JonesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Port Orange, FL
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Mike D'Arrigo:

@Seth M. Jones why not establish a criteria for CoC return or some other meaningful metric? Rent ratios don't say anything about ROI and are especially meaningless misleading when comparing across markets. That's because they don't take any expenses in to account which can vary drastically across markets. For instance, a market like Dallas which has some of the highest property taxes and insurance in the country will have nowhere near the returns that markets in AL which have very low taxes even with the same rent ratio. Rent ratio might be somewhat helpful when you are comparing opportunities within the same market but are useless and can be very misleading when comparing markets with different operating costs. Now if you asked if there were markets with 12-14% CoC returns, I would say yes. Most of the Midwest and some of the Southeast have those kind of returns. I personally like Indianapolis and Kansas CIty. I'd be happy to talk to you in more detail if either of those two are on your radar, which if cash flow is your objective, they should be.

I appreciate your perspective, and I absolutely do have requirements for CoC returns. The reason I opened up the conversation about rent ratios is that even beginning investors understand them, and I only had one goal... to get feedback from investors on markets that I should be looking into. Once I am exposed to the market, then the due diligence of analyzing potential ROI comes into play.

Thank you for recommending that I check out Indianapolis and Kansas City. I'll explore those areas further. I would be interested in connecting about Indianapolis, as I've already looked into that market and I'm trying to decipher which areas have B and C class properties... evaluating these areas from a distance it is often hard to tell whether you're looking at a C property or a D class property (which I've invested in previously and now know to avoid). 

Thank you for joining the conversation. 

Post: Is there a 1% Rule market out there?

Seth M. JonesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Port Orange, FL
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 43

Thank you for all the follow-up. After some great feedback and additional research, I'm currently targeting a few areas in Texas. 

Post: Is there a 1% Rule market out there?

Seth M. JonesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Port Orange, FL
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Rick Pozos:

Hey @Seth M. Jones I dont think you need to look outside of your area. I think you may need to do some marketing to find the people who NEED to sell instead of the people who WANT to sell their house. Big Difference.

When you find the people who NEED to get out, they will sell so that you can buy and achieve the 1% or even better. It takes lots of marketing, networking and talking to lots of people to get good deals right now.

Great points, but I'm looking outside of the area regardless in order to diversify my real estate portfolio across a few different markets. My area is susceptible to hurricanes and is influenced by tourism, and I'd like to get into a few different markets over the next few years. 

Post: Debt Consolidation/Credit Counseling

Seth M. JonesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Port Orange, FL
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Jon Passow:

Thanks everyone for their comments! After talking with my friend, he said that he thinks doing a budget would be a good idea but also a lot of his debt isn't from superfluous spending. It's from a move cross country that he did, from building his own house, and from the personal loan for the down payment of the property he built his house on.

@Seth M. Jones, I think what you wrote in particular is spot on. My friend told me that he's treading water with the debt because it is spread out over two credit cards and a loan and he just keeps paying the minimum (except for the loan, because he's been paying that one down. He started at 15k and is at 8k now). I will tell my friend about Dave Ramsey. But I would love to pick your brain a little about how your clients bundled their debt together. Mind if I pm you?

 Absolutely, please feel free to message me directly.

Post: Out of State BRRRRs Insight

Seth M. JonesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Port Orange, FL
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 43

I'd just like to piggyback on Frank and Brandon's input, as I'm an out of state investor who is actually targeting San Antonio and Killeen as potential investment areas. 

Post: HELOC in Georgia for SFR

Seth M. JonesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Port Orange, FL
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Mark B.:

@Seth M. Jones Have you used Suntrust for a HELOC on an investment property? According to there website, they only do heloc on owner occupied homes.

Apologies Mark, I was missed that the particular property that you were looking into was for an investment. You're not going to be able to get higher than 80% LTV on an investment HELOC, but TD Bank is known to handle investor HELOCs pretty well.

Post: Getting Pre Approved for a Loan Inquiry

Seth M. JonesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Port Orange, FL
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Michelle Truong:

@Eric Veronica & @Seth M. Jones

Thank you both for clarifying and giving me good advice. I feel a lot more reassured and confident now that you both have said that this is a standard procedure. 

 My pleasure. Don't hesitate to message during the process if you have any further questions.

Post: Refinance or not, in this case

Seth M. JonesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Port Orange, FL
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 43

Great questions Andrew. This likely is not a good financial decision, but I'll tell you how I typically walk my clients through the decision making process... First, you need to understand how much the refinance will be saving you per month on your payments... forget about the rate for a second. Many people who refinance for rate don't realize that they are increasing their loan size by financing closing costs enough to offset any potential benefit. Once you know how much you'll be saving per month, you need to figure out the entire cost of the refinance (how much out of pocket, and how much lost equity). Then you divide the total cost by the savings per month. This will show you how long it will take you to recoup your cost of refinancing. If you plan on owning the home forever, that's one thing, but if it is a 5-year property than that is a totally different situation. 

For example, if the refinance is saving you $100 a month, and the total cost to refinance is $6000, then it would take you 60 months, or 5 years to recoup that investment. 

Additionally, you'll want to consider what the savings per month means to you, and if those additional savings would help accelerate your investing elsewhere. 

If the benefit of refinancing isn't obvious to you, don't do it. It is likely that your being sold rather than making a sound financial decision.

Post: Debt Consolidation/Credit Counseling

Seth M. JonesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Port Orange, FL
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Scott Jensen:

Consolidation probably isn't the solution since it doesn't address the problem (managing cash flow).

Here's the site for the Consumer Credit Counseling Services. It's a free non profit that helps with cash flow and debt payment.

https://credit.org/cccs/

Best of luck to your friend!

 That isn't necessarily true, consolidation can help with cash flow in many situations. I've worked with plenty of clients in similar situations, one in particular who took $1200 in minimum monthly payments based on combined debts around $20,000, and consolidated into one manageable payment of around $370 (9.99% interest over 6 years). In this particular case, which is a real example, it freed up over $800 worth of cash flow which they could turn around and use to pay down the debt... Or preferably build up an emergency fund then address the debt after. Depending on income, this is hole that he could dig himself out of rather quickly.

I also would highly recommend Dave Ramsey for this particular type of situation, though I'd be careful not to adopt Dave's credit is evil mentality.

Post: Getting Pre Approved for a Loan Inquiry

Seth M. JonesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Port Orange, FL
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 43

Michelle, many people share your same feeling when first beginning the mortgage process. As Eric mentioned, you first want to make sure you feel comfortable with who you work with, but providing all of your personal financial information is part of the process. Standard documentation that you should expect to provide is:

1. Copy (or picture) of Driver's License

2. Most recent 30 days paystubs

3. Your most recent 2 years W2’s

4. Your most recent 2 years complete personal tax returns (All pages)

5. Most recent 2 months Bank Statements 

This can vary from lender to lender, and can vary depending on the loan program that you are pursuing, however this is completely normal. The reason why all of this documentation is required, in a nutshell, is to prevent mortgage fraud and also to prove to the lender that you are in fact a qualified buyer who is able to repay their significant investment into your real estate business.