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All Forum Posts by: Seth Borman

Seth Borman has started 5 posts and replied 545 times.

Post: Gas Stoves to be prohibited in New Builds - California

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Seth Borman:

But that was the whole point of this thread.....

Also Cali gets 73% of it's energy from fossil fuels and 16% from renewable. https://www.aeraenergy.com/whe...

In addition, CA also has to import almost 1/3 of its energy.

We could go on, but let's not. And let them ban gas stoves, I don't care anymore, I got out.


 Energy does not equal electricity, the 73% includes gasoline. Do you heat your home with gasoline? I don't.

Post: Gas Stoves to be prohibited in New Builds - California

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
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Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

Oh, and no one has mentioned that in order to run an electric stove, you must use fossil fuels. The green people always seem to forget this. The percentage varies by where you live, but it is somewhere between 60 and 90%.


 A gas stove is about 40% efficient, an electric stove is about 75% efficient. If you are in California, 50% of your electricity come from gas, the rest is mostly nukes, hydro or renewable (coal is .2%). Factor in distribution losses and you are still using less gas to run an electric stove than a gas one. 

But also keep in mind that the business case for electrified cooking is the weakest of all the appliances, the strongest case is for water and space heating where heat pumps use 1/3 the energy to do the same thing. Most people living in California would use less gas for heating if they had a heat pump that was powered by a gas turbine somewhere. They are that efficient.

Post: Gas Stoves to be prohibited in New Builds - California

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Seth Borman:

Dude, you're hilarious. Like providing an electric meter is free? A neighbor of ours just got charged $19,000 for the elec run. 

And there is no electrical grid load problem in Cali? Ahahahaha, you cherry pick the alleged facts that suit your narrative......


 Pretty easy to build a home without a gas line, half of all new houses don't have one, but they all seem to have electricity, don't they?

The grid load problem in CA is because of ACs on hot days. Are you going to solve that with natural gas too? 

Post: Inherited Portfolio in Southern California

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
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Having seen inherited properties a time or two, the first thing you need to be thinking about is collecting rent, not paying property taxes...

Post: Seeking Opinion on Crawl Space Insulation

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
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I'm not an expert on this but the term for it is encapsulating the crawlspace, and it's generally a good idea as long as you do it right.

I would use that search term to find more information on how to do it right. 

Post: Get new gas boiler heater or ductless minisplits?

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314

I did that to a seven unit, worked out pretty well. Mini splits don't do great if there are a lot of walls so keep that in mind for two bedroom units.

Post: Adding two gas/electric meters to single fam property

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314
Quote from @Ryan Normand:

No. It sounds like you are in an area that is zoned single family, and per NEC 230.2 you can only have one electrical service (i.e. meter) to your house. If you want 2 separate services/meters, usually the only legit way is to have it zoned multifamily so the city and utility companies formally recognize it as a duplex.

You may be able to install a sub panel. Check to make sure your current service has enough amperage to support whatever loads you plan on adding. Sub panels are pretty common for additions, garages, etc. Even with a sub panel, you're still only going to get one bill from the utility company. 

You may want to treat the second unit as an ADU instead of a true duplex. That will make your life a lot easier from a utilities and zoning perspective. Rezoning and separating all the utilities will be extremely costly and time consuming.


 The NEC doesn't care about zoning. A multiunit building can only have one service drop, that doesn't mean that it can't have more than one meter.

The city or utility might have their own spin on things, but it isn't coming from the electrical code.

Post: Water availability/sustainability long term

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Seth Borman:

There are cheaper ways of doing it, do a quick search. And as your other post said, if we drive up the cost of water, the cost to desalinate might look awfully cheap after a while....



 No, it's never going to look cheap, because it never will be. It's 100x the price of surface water. Cutting water consumption is much cheaper than finding more water.

Post: Water availability/sustainability long term

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
  • Votes 314
Quote from @Chad McMahan:

 Right now water isn't priced for conservation. I will know that people are serious about saving water when they start to price it like it is important.

Post: Water availability/sustainability long term

Seth BormanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 553
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Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Chad McMahan:

Yes we do. If I were in charge (haha) I would have California start desalination and get them off the Colorado River system. That alone would fix the problem. But they won't....


Desalination is too expensive, it would be like solving a power shortage by hiring day laborers to generate power on stationary bicycles.

Toilet to tap is a lot cheaper. Rainwater capture is cheaper. Tearing out lawns, golf courses, cotton or hay fields... it's all cheaper.