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All Forum Posts by: Bill Goodland

Bill Goodland has started 29 posts and replied 516 times.

Post: Stock Market While Saving For Down Payment?

Bill GoodlandPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Allentown PA, United States
  • Posts 533
  • Votes 422

Another limitations to real estate is that it can be a challenge to make the best investments if you aren't near a strong market. There are ways around this of course but it definitely more work involved. In stocks I have access to information and ability to invest in companies that I think are the best companies around as far as stability and growth are concerned without needing to make connections across the country like buying out of state RE. You can invest in the entire market, but if the entire market tanks, I still believe my portfolio to be superior to the index because I only try to buy what I believe to be the best companies. An S&P 500 index is a great place to start don't get me wrong, but in a declining economy the S&P will follow. Even in a strong economy the S&P still has losers in it(take general electric for example). I just prefer to buy the winners. 

A strategy I like as well is to invest in the hot industries in ETFs. I don't necessarily have the expertise to know which semiconductor, artificial intelligence, marijuana, or blockchain company is going to be the next big winner; however I do know that regardless of how one company does, these industries are on the rise, therefore I invest in ETFs that follow the index of these industries I just mentioned. If theres a loser in the bunch so be it, I still have exposure to their competitors that are winning and are weighted in the ETF that follows the entire industry as they are on the rise.

Post: Stock Market While Saving For Down Payment?

Bill GoodlandPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Allentown PA, United States
  • Posts 533
  • Votes 422
I would definitely recommend putting your money in the stock market IF**** a major correction like losing 20-25-% in a rather short period of time wouldn’t ruin your life. If you are still young and I believe you are, I would recommend investing where you see the highest “expect value”. Meaning that you can predict what the market will do tomorrow, nobody can. But you can put your money where over the course of 30-40 years, you have a decent idea of what the returns will look like. I have been investing in the stock market since I was 18, primary in low cost vanguard index funds, but have also bought stocks of companies I believe have very strong fundamentals for growth and have done really well with them(mostly FAANG stocks). It’s not to say we’re going to huge run ups forever, but I would definitely say the current state of our economy leads most traditional market investors to believe they should expect another double digit year of returns(once again no guarantee). But the same people in real estate that will tell you not to invest in stocks because they can crash, also have people in stocks that say the same about real estate. For example, if I put my money in a bank CD currently at 1.5% or so for the rest of my life, I can expect my money to double nearly every 50 years. But oh it’s so safe!! Let’s say an index fund average returns 10%, doubles every 7+ years, and let’s say real estate every 5 years. Not to say you can’t have one bad year, or a string of bad years, but if you have the wherewithal to stick it out through potential tough times, I say chase the highest and best expected value of your money(estimate returns adjusted for level of risk). Don’t spend what little money you have on a crap D class property because I equivocate that to buy penny stocks. Potential looks great on paper until they inevitably burn you and quality investment inevitably wins long term. Even though somebody may find one indicator or reason why the market could trend significantly down in the near future, there’s been people saying the same thing for 5-8 years already and the same thing happened in the early 90’s for a crash that didn’t come for nearly 10 years. I justify my investments will, “well I know the worst could happen, but I still think the market is more likely to go up 20-30% over X amount of time before it goes down that far”. Time IN matters way more than TIMING the market. Humans are hard wired to be loss averse, meaning we irrationally over estimate the likelihood and severity of something bad happening and underestimate the likelihood and benefit of things working out in your favor. So if you wanna be safe, put your money in a CD or bond. If you wanna grow your wealth, I’d recommend investing wisely in the market until you have enough to start buying a quality piece of cash flowing real estate with the potential to add value and get the snowball rolling. Best of luck.

Post: Looking for a good CPA in Suffolk County

Bill GoodlandPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Allentown PA, United States
  • Posts 533
  • Votes 422

Owen Petersen & Co. are fantastic

Post: Hellllooo from Philadelphia, PA

Bill GoodlandPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Allentown PA, United States
  • Posts 533
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@Nina Ricci No problem and thank you I hope so even though me buying my first deal is a bit of a ways away until I finish school. Good luck and keep us posted how everything works out!

Post: Can you walk me through your first purchase & flip?

Bill GoodlandPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Allentown PA, United States
  • Posts 533
  • Votes 422

Theres tons of resources on here. What I would recommend is to read a few books first, listen to every BP podcasts you can with a flipper guest, then go out looking for deals. People will take you a lot more seriously once you have a strong knowledge base. I've also found people to be a lot more receptive to helping once you have taken some action and come with specific questions. Best of luck!

Post: SOLD! $45,000 profit to start the New Year.

Bill GoodlandPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Allentown PA, United States
  • Posts 533
  • Votes 422

Awesome job @Omid A.! Do you happen to have any before pictures your wouldn't mind sharing?

Post: Lender says “no loan for a 5 hour commute”. HELP

Bill GoodlandPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Allentown PA, United States
  • Posts 533
  • Votes 422

Is there a specific reason your so dead set on getting this property? Even if the projected returns are 5% better than something local, is it really worth the extra time and effort of that commute?

Post: BEST market to build buy and hold portfolio?!

Bill GoodlandPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Allentown PA, United States
  • Posts 533
  • Votes 422
Originally posted by @Brian Lewis:

Wow, I just posted a very similar post right before I read this one. The OP's question is pretty much exactly my question. 
I love the answers you all gave but I'd like to piggy back and ask a follow up. What criteria do you use to analyze a market and what resources do you use to look at a markets?

 I'm sure some more experienced investors can weigh in. But having listened to thousands of podcasts episodes and forum posts read, you will definitely get a decent gauge for some popular markets for things that align with your goals. For example, flipping may be really popular on the coasts(NY,LA,MIA) where buy and hold options are nearly non-existent. Midwest markets like Cleveland, Indy, and Memphis are really popular for cash flow due to low prices and relatively high rents. Markets like DFW, San Antonio, Atlanta etc. however seem to have the best indicators for growth and thus ideally appreciation in the form of job growth, unemployment rates, and population growth. If you have identified a market to invest in and look more closely at for a specific property, I would recommend asking on the forums and looking at their "economy at a glance" on bls.gov. If thats too tedious of a task to look at multiple markets, I believe there are plenty of brokerages that put out newsletters or yearly updates on where they rank certain markets for growth.

Post: BEST market to build buy and hold portfolio?!

Bill GoodlandPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Allentown PA, United States
  • Posts 533
  • Votes 422

@Andrew Johnson thanks for the input and I totally agree. I am going to take the best offer that I get out of school that fits the area of medicine I want to practice in. My point was that I can apply anywhere, and PA salaries often have an inverse relationship with cost of living due to lack of supply in areas like Texas compared to NYC.

@Sherman Ragland Thanks for the tip. I am assuming you're saying 270k properties are getting $1,000 in cash flow per month? What are actual rents going for there? It seems hard to believe that house is beating 1% rule but I could be wrong.

Post: BEST market to build buy and hold portfolio?!

Bill GoodlandPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Allentown PA, United States
  • Posts 533
  • Votes 422
Originally posted by @Ola Dantis:

@Bill Goodland Hey Bill, it is really awesome that you have that autonomy to live anywhere in the US.

I've been to San Antonio, TX a couple of times, and I think it is a really strong market with population growth and poised for strong employment drivers in the coming years. 

Also, as a side note, I think you should buy a 4-unit as your first house hack. If I were to go back in time, that's what I would have done instead of buying a duplex for my first acquisition. 
Other than that, I think educating yourself on MINDSET and technical knowhow both fall in place when you are ready to start investing.

Hope this helps. Good luck. Thanks! - Ola  

 Thanks for the reply and insight! Any submarkets or zip codes you would recommend keeping an eye on in San Antonio?

And I totally agree, a 4-unit would be ideal, however inventory in a lot of markets is tight and I feel that although I would most likely jump at the opportunity for a 4-plex in a decent area at the chance, I may end up going with a property that has the most value-add potential when there isn't a ton to choose from. I totally agree mindset is huge. Even if I can't surround myself with 5 successful investors every day, listening to every BP podcast among others and reading nearly 2 dozen books on real estate/wealth building/mindset has given me the confidence to take steps in the right direction.