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All Forum Posts by: Sean Bramble

Sean Bramble has started 49 posts and replied 198 times.

Post: Thoughts on 10 year I/O in today's environment?

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Hey everyone - I'm going under contract today on my first deal ever! Property is right outside of a Natl Park in CA, and we'd like to use it as a full-time STR/ Airbnb

I'm comparing DSCR loan options today (no DTI - DSCR is my only option), and notice that 10 year I/O options boost my cashflow, but am uncertain if this is better than your standard 30 year fixed. My goal is to scale as quickly as possible by investing in future properties, so I like the idea of minimizing equity/ principal paydown in the property for the sake of liquidity. But I also realize the macroeconomic environment - especially as it relates to interest rates - is very uncertain, and in 5-10 years time rates could be even higher than they are today. I would hate to be forced to refi at a higher rate ... but I'm also asking myself how much I'll really care at that point, bc I'll hopefully have many more properties in my portfolio by then ...

Anyone else out there who shares my goals of scaling quick and has weighed this decision recently? Would love to hear your thoughts. I'm a newb at this, so can use all the advice I can get! Thanks!

Post: STR insurance ... in a wildfire risk area

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I'm searching in a CA market that has very high wildfire risk - spoke to Proper and they said they do not insure there. How are others STRing in high fire risk areas insuring? I imagine it's more of an a la carte strategy where you acquire homeowners, fire, and business liability separately? I'm new to the insurance side of STRs, fire risk, and California generally, so would love any ideas/ advice you can share about how it works out there!

Post: How to make your Airbnb SUPER unique?

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Quote from @Mitch Davidson:

@Michael Hyun,

While I agree that it's good to focus on both great customer service and unique experience, I think resale of the property has to be a strong consideration. Meaning, can someone get a loan to buy my property, or will I be limited to cash buyers? Also, will the property appreciate or at least hold the value I've spent creating it? And if I need to convert the home to a monthly rental or even LTR, can that work with the property despite it's unique aspects? 

If the answer to one of those questions is no, I would keep the spending low (meaning I might setup a glamping site but I wouldn't build a container home), or I would otherwise make the unique aspects non-permanent or undoable (meaning I might use Etsy and antique stores to build a unique decor and activity theme but I wouldn't modify the structure of the home to look like a potato).

There is definitely merit to this point if you expect to sell the property as a "home" (i.e., based on comps) ... but a lot of the talking heads in the STR space have been predicting we will be able to sell STRs as hospitality assets at cap rate in the future. i.e., sell the property + photos + Airbnb/VRBO/Instagram accounts + systems + operations manual as a turn-key business. This is already happening to some extent in markets where home prices have risen to reflect the average potential STR income. But for truly standout STRs, @Mitch Davidson is right ... they likely won't appraise for what they actually ought to be worth to an investor, which prevents them from buying solely with loan types that exist today (only option is to cover the gap w/ cash or other credit products like helocs, etc.). This may not always be the case, though ... we're literally 1 loan product away from valuing STRs as stand-alone businesses at cap rate rather than as homes based on comps. And in that scenario, all of the expensive investments in furniture and quirky property improvements have the potential to add to the value of your exit oppty, rather than becoming wasted dollars. We'll just have to wait and see :)

Post: How to make your Airbnb SUPER unique?

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Ah yes, the old differentiation vs. "just execute well" debate :)

I listened to Avery's BP podcast in 2020/ read her book in 2021 and credit her for motivating me to get started in STRs. Can't emphasize enough how seeing others like her and Luke share their journey has helped me grow the balls to actually do it myself! (you guys seriously rock). That said, I felt that the book was more targeted to a less hands-on remote investor who preferred to buy turn-key (or near turn-key) properties and start cashflowing fast with minimal money out of pocket ... rather than a creatively-minded value add investor with the will & skill to build differentiated experiences that outperform the competition. In my past life, I focused on the latter (differentiate & outperform), so I’ll be upfront and admit am biased here. Both strategies have merit in my opinion - but I'll explain why "differentiate" has merit (for the right investor)

In my past career I helped a handful of consumer brands reframe how they thought about product design and marketing - we helped them change the way they thought about demand from a "product" lens to a "consumer psychology" lens. I'm by no means the expert on this topic, but I've learned from some of the greats in that space who are far more intelligent than I. Here are some of the principles we taught our clients:

1. Product choice (and all human behavior, really) is driven by the desire to fulfill our psychological & physical needs

2. Needs change in different contexts (holding person constant): For instance, I might book a fancy Airbnb if I'm trying to impress a new girlfriend on a multi-day getaway, but am happy to rent a cheap motel if I'm just passing through on a road trip for 1 night solo (side note: I've been dating my gf for 5 years, so the impressing days are long gone, but she still refuses to stay in the motels I frequent when driving solo, haha. I have a soft spot for motels - reminds me of road trips with my parents out West when I was a kid)

3. Needs also vary person to person (holding context constant): For instance, my 76 year old mom tends to prefer properties that meet her physical needs (no stairs, walk in shower instead of tub to avoid tripping, stocked kitchen so she can cook), while my 22 year old nephew tends to prefer properties that meet his psychological need to be noticed and admired by peers (translation: one he can use as a backdrop for his Instagram). Emphasis here on the words "tends to" ... context is still a major driver of needs, meaning they won't always make these choices

4. Needs occur in "clusters" with other needs, some being more or less important. i.e., we have multiple needs at once and subliminally have a ranking of which are more or less important to us in that moment.

5. We're forced to make tradeoffs if the choices available to us don't deliver on all of our needs. Example: my nephew also wants a property with comfortable furniture, nearby attractions, and a coffee machine, but he might sacrifice some of those lower-order needs in order to fulfill higher-order needs

6. This decision process is fast and invisible to the most people as it is happening. i.e., you don't know you're thinking in this much depth, but your brain is quickly weighing the pros and cons based on motivations you might not even know you have

7. The most successful companies identify clusters of needs that are underserved by what's on the market today, and target those needs ruthlessly by advertising features/ creating brands that speak to them

So how does this all relate to "unique" STR properties/ features? It means that just because they are less prevalent - or even entirely absent in your market - doesn't mean the needs for them aren't there. Guests may just be compromising by choosing their best bad option. It also means that you shouldn't differentiate at the expense of executing well on other dimensions – it's an "and" rather than an "or". Start with a specific type of guest, occasion, and cluster of needs in mind and reverse engineer a property that nails them. This is the literal the opposite of starting with a random idea and forcing it into your property for no good reason, which I think is what Luke was referring to with the “mini horse in a treehouse” example. Treehouse lovers and petting zoo lovers just don’t overlap that much (although now that I think about it, my 5 year old niece would love that, haha).

A big takeaway here is that you don't have to follow what everyone else is doing - standing out might drive insane returns if you're targeting the right underserved needs. Consumer product example: White Claw/ hard seltzers exploding overnight. Needs were: cheap, low calorie alcoholic drink that allow you to drink multiple without getting too drunk or feeling bloated. Some people had been compromising on the bloated part for decades drinking light beer, then White Claw launches, and BAM! They struck oil! err ... they struck underserved demand! Or another obvious example: Airbnb/ VRBO ... people had been traveling in groups and staying in separate hotel rooms even though they preferred a more connected lodging experience ... the rest is history

To wrap this up, I'm not sure it makes sense to build these sort of unique "destination" STR properties with lots of unique features in all markets. Probably won't work as well in the Smokies or beach markets bc there are SO many things to do outside of the property and that's why people go there. There is just less pressure on the property to provide an "experience" in those places. But in places like Joshua Tree there is way less to do (in town at least - I know there is a Natl Pk), and self contained, uniquely designed places with tons of quirky stuff to do on the property are outperforming for a reason. If your standard STR is reimagining a hotel room, then these properties are reimagining a resort experience, and resorts have been around for a long time. The need is "won't get bored staying in the property for several days without leaving", and I think it has a ton of potential in markets that lack attractions in the surrounding area. Plus the ROI on additional dollars spent creating these experience on-property could be much higher than the ROI on your property down payment. Food for thought.

Net net, I think differentiation and uniqueness is one way of adding value in STRs. It takes more time and more money, but I believe the reward is there for those willing to do so.

PS – take my ramblings here with a grain of salt, I’m new to RE and don’t even own property yet, so I’m a lot of talk with literally zero walk. This approach may not be a good idea at all, and definitely isn’t appropriate for the average investor looking for something with less time commitment/ investment upfront. I still think Avery and Luke's approach is probably best for most investors. And if you're interested in hearing me ramble even more on this topic shoot me a DM! 

Post: STR in Desert Hot Springs

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What are the regulations in Desert Hot Springs? I assumed there was a moratorium on permits like Palm Springs, but that might be a bad assumption. Potential returns look decent …


PS- the jump you saw could be some sort of hotel/ multi unit property coming online. If it’s a hotel, it prob won’t compete with homes w multiple bedrooms .. worth digging into

Post: Joshua tree / Twentynine Palms

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It really depends on your goals, investment style, and cf target. 29 seems to have lower prices than the surrounding areas and therefore more cashflow potential, but it seems like a market that makes the most sense for a value add investor who is willing to do a renovation and nail it with design. Many of the great properties were bought up over the last few years, so what's left are more vanilla homes on average that make good canvases for creativity, but likely won't perform well as-is. Very different than more developed/ long-standing STR markets like the Smokies or Florida beaches where there are more turn-key properties available to buy (not saying you can't value add in these markets - you obviously can - but they are just more developed than JT). I do think there is A LOT of competitive intensity in JT in terms of design - lots of young energy from LA, etc. buying up homes and breathing creative flare into the area … so it's hard to be a big fish and stand out like you could in almost any other market. I'm amazed at JT though, it's SO cool to see the crazy stuff people are creating out there. Definitely taking notes, as I hope to take cues from there and apply in some of the other markets I'm looking in.

there were some great ramblings about JT in this post 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 could be a starting point for you to network w some investors in the area as well

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...


Post: Seller psychology/ offer strategy

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I’ve heard David mention tidbits here and there about how experienced agents will approach the offer process in different ways than less experienced agents. Seems he’s really just saying there are ways to create psychological leverage in negotiations that help you get the get the deal you want at a great price

Are there any best practices/ stories some of you can share based on your own experiences in certain deal scenarios?


Hey BP! Just put in my first ever offer on a property! Man, I feel so nervous and excited all at the same time :)

Question: I'm out-of-state and have never visited the property in person (did video tour w/ my agent). I know I will need to go there in person during the inspection period, but wanted to ask how other long distance investors do this... How many days do you go for? When do you go? i.e., after inspections but before close? What do you look for/ check while you're there? 

Any guidance would be super helpful! Trying not to get my hopes up too much bc I know how competitive the market is, but figure I need to plan my visit just in case this one works out

Also beware that every RE agent on BP will recommend their market to you ... many of them truly are great markets, but just be aware info can be a little biased at times so do your own research

Depends ... what are your goals? Appreciation? Cashflow? A market with a demand driver that will stand the test of time? Own something in a location you want to visit? etc.